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NHS gender clinic 'should have challenged me more' over transition
BBC News ^ | March 1, 2020 | By Alison Holt

Posted on 03/01/2020 2:33:07 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

A 23-year-old woman who is taking legal action against an NHS gender clinic says she should have been challenged more by medical staff over her decision to transition to a male as a teenager.

A judge gave the go-ahead this week for a full hearing of the case against the Tavistock and Portman NHS Trust.

Lawyers will argue children cannot give informed consent to treatment delaying puberty or helping them to transition.

Keira Bell is one of the claimants and will give evidence in the judicial review, which is likely to be heard in early summer.

The second claimant, known only as Mum A, is the mother of a 15-year-old girl with autism, who is awaiting treatment at the clinic.

Keira describes being a tomboy as a child. When asked how strongly she felt the need to change her gender identity, she replied that it gradually built up as she found out more about transitioning online.

Then as she went down the medical route, she said "one step led to another".

She was referred to the Tavistock GIDS clinic at the age of age 16. She said after three one-hour-long appointments she was prescribed puberty blockers, which delay the development of signs of puberty, like periods or facial hair.

She felt there wasn't enough investigation or therapy before she reached that stage.

"I should have been challenged on the proposals or the claims that I was making for myself," she said. "And I think that would have made a big difference as well. If I was just challenged on the things I was saying."

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: childabuse; homosexualagenda; perverts
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1 posted on 03/01/2020 2:33:07 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So you’re gonna sue them because you’re a moron by choice? Then you would have sued them for them daring to ‘challenge your choice’. Stupidity has consequences.


2 posted on 03/01/2020 2:38:16 AM PST by WKUHilltopper
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This crap is so insanely evil it’s just off the charts, it’s Dr.Mengele stuff, it really is. Kids can be talked into anything, they are naive, impressionable and the left is taking advantage of that, using them to push their demented agenda. Last weekend I read one article of them wanting to inject hormones into children PRE-puberty!


3 posted on 03/01/2020 2:40:28 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free equal justice under the law will never exist in the USA)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
... at the age of age 16. She said after three one-hour-long appointments she was prescribed puberty blockers, which delay the development of signs of puberty, like periods ...

If she hadn't had a period by the age of 16, she had some serious endocrine issues before she ever walked into the "gender" clinic.

4 posted on 03/01/2020 2:47:08 AM PST by Tax-chick (You're only one book away from a very good mood. (Washington County, UT, Library)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“I should have been challenged on the proposals or the claims that I was making for myself,” she said. “And I think that would have made a big difference as well. If I was just challenged on the things I was saying.”


There is some truth there.

One of the definitions of love is speaking the truth. I am thankful for those in my past who chose to correct me and reprimand me. It took time and effort and they received no reward.


5 posted on 03/01/2020 2:55:50 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“I should have been challenged on the proposals or the claims that I was making for myself,”

This is where we are today: The crazy people among us think we’re stupid...


6 posted on 03/01/2020 2:58:18 AM PST by TalBlack
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To: WKUHilltopper

If you were having a mentally ill episode and thought you should hang yourself, and went to a clinic that purported to treat people who want to hang themselves

and they gave you rope.

You would have a right no...a duty to law suit the clinic and all the workers.

These people were treated as transgender on their say so

horrible what is being done


7 posted on 03/01/2020 3:01:36 AM PST by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: WKUHilltopper

Yep. These nuts are going to start suing for what they did to themselves.

Down the line, some will turn around and sue their moronic parents. Now THAT I would agree with(if the child was 15 or less).


8 posted on 03/01/2020 3:06:08 AM PST by Conserv
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To: Tax-chick

Canadian ‘Trans’ Children Are Sterilized And Mutilated While Parents And Journalists Are Forbidden To Speak About It

Laura Lynn Thompson of http://lauralynn.tv joins The Alex Jones Show with guest host Matt Bracken to break down the heartbreaking story of government sponsored child mutilation and the government regulations that lock parents out of protecting their children or speaking out.

https://banned.video/watch?id=5e5855ebe9bc4b00785fdcce


9 posted on 03/01/2020 3:28:30 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Ron White said it best. Ya can’t fix stupid.

JoMa


10 posted on 03/01/2020 3:30:47 AM PST by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks.)
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To: Travis McGee

Thank you.


11 posted on 03/01/2020 3:38:50 AM PST by Tax-chick (You're only one book away from a very good mood. (Washington County, UT, Library)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Injecting hormones into defenseless children ... these same parents probably feed the kids only organic dairy foods and meats. Because, hormones.


12 posted on 03/01/2020 3:55:31 AM PST by Cloverfarm (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem ...)
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To: WKUHilltopper

She was a dumb kid. Enabled by an evil industry and tricked by propaganda. We don’t let tobacco companies advertise to children, and we don’t allow alcohol sales to minors, so why do we allow for major elective surgery based on propaganda-inspired whimsy?


13 posted on 03/01/2020 4:00:11 AM PST by TennesseeProfessor
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Jorge Agustín Nicolás Ruiz de Santayana y Borrás, AKA George Santayana, famously wrote "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it". These days this appears to be especially true for those of the LEFT! In their unfettered passion for transgender 'rights', they have forgotten very recent history.

In the mid 1980s to the early 90s in the United States, there arose the great scandal of child sexual abuse in a multitude of private and church day care centers. 'Experts', who assisted law enforcement and the legal system, assured all in earshot, that they were unbiased and very exact in their interviews and investigations of very young children in such famous cases as the McMartin Preschool and Fells Acres Day Care Center. What HISTORY tells us from these cases is that many of these experts WERE BIASED and verbally battered these young witnesses into being their VICTIMS to get testimony against the accused adults.

I can see many analogs between then and now, especially with the sickening LEFTist Dogma that young children can make such unalterable life decisions. UNREAL but all too REAL! YES, there will inevitably be regrets, recriminations and then lawsuits by the victims against their abusers in the years to come.

14 posted on 03/01/2020 4:03:34 AM PST by SES1066 (Happiness is a depressed Washington, DC housing market!)
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To: Cloverfarm

Yes! The extreme hypocrisy of the left is endless, in everything the do. Look at their reaction to this Corona virus bashing Trump saying the entire country will be infected because he hasn’t taken action. Well excuse me, but just who exactly is for wide open borders where anyone can bring in any disease, NOW they are concerned about people bringing in a disease?


15 posted on 03/01/2020 4:12:44 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free equal justice under the law will never exist in the USA)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Whoops.


16 posted on 03/01/2020 5:22:13 AM PST by moovova
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To: TennesseeProfessor

While I was understand she was young and should have been protected, this reminds me of the nonsense when AIDS was spreading in bathhouses in the 1980s. Attempts to close them were met with protests of homophobia, yet the official line today is that the government didn’t close them fast enough. Echoes a more recent issue, when banks were forced to lend to bad credit risks for “racial parity”, then a couple of years later when the borrowers defaulted the same banks were accused of predatory lending.

You can’t make this sh!t up...


17 posted on 03/01/2020 6:00:11 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Conserv

The problem is that in this Alice in Wonderland world the Leftists have created the parents have no right to object. There has been story after story of parents trying to prevent transitions, hormone injections and the schools/clinics take them to court and put them under restraining orders. If they so much as use the child’s birth name they can be jailed.

This first father was lucky but at tremendous financial & emotional cost
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/texas-judge-rules-father-has-a-say-in-seven-year-old-sons-gender-transition/

These parents were not so lucky.
https://www.heritage.org/gender/commentary/parents-just-lost-custody-teenage-daughter-who-wants-transition-boy-what-you-need

https://thefederalist.com/2019/04/29/authorities-arrest-canadian-father-refers-trans-child-real-sex/

https://thefederalist.com/2019/02/12/lgbt-activists-teaching-judges-yank-kids-parents-wont-transgender/


18 posted on 03/01/2020 6:25:16 AM PST by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance. Nemo me impune lacessit!)
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To: WKUHilltopper

so you are saying a 16 year old has the mental acuity to make decisions regarding elective medical procedures that have lifelong (sterility) ramifications? she is the problem here, seriously?


19 posted on 03/01/2020 6:56:20 AM PST by wafflehouse (RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
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To: Conserv

Parents have no control over this issue at any age.

Schools will treat them, take custody if needed, just like for abortion.

Courts will act agains parents, so do libraries and medical offices.

Planned parenthood is a big provider of drugs to these poor kids.


20 posted on 03/01/2020 6:57:07 AM PST by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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