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FACT CHECK: Mike Pence Moved Slowly in Combating HIV Outbreak
FactCheck.org ^ | 02/28/2020 | Rem Rieder

Posted on 02/29/2020 3:26:50 PM PST by SeekAndFind

In an interview with Fox News’ Sean Hannity, newly crowned coronavirus point man Mike Pence spun the facts in claiming he moved decisively when confronted with a disturbing HIV outbreak in a rural Indiana county when he was governor of the state.

“We worked the problem early in the year from a law enforcement standpoint, from a health standpoint,” the vice president told Hannity on Feb. 27. “I don’t believe in needle exchanges as a way to combat drug abuse, but in this case, we came to the conclusion that we had a public health emergency, and so, I took executive action to make a limited needle exchange available.”

But Pence’s fellow Hoosier Pete Buttigieg, the former South Bend mayor now seeking the Democratic presidential nomination, says there’s more to the story. “He was dragged kicking and screaming into that,” Buttigieg told CNN’s Don Lemon on Feb. 27. “Had he acted earlier, I believe that the worst parts of the HIV epidemic could have been avoided.”

Buttigieg is right. An unusually high number of HIV cases in Scott County, Indiana, was first spotted by health authorities in November 2014. Pence did not declare a public health emergency and authorize a needle exchange program for the county until March 26, 2015.

A 2018 study by Yale University researchers, published in the medical journal The Lancet HIV, concluded prompt action could have dramatically reduced the seriousness of the outbreak.

“The upper bound for undiagnosed HIV infections in Scott County peaked at 126 around Jan 10, 2015, over 2 months before the Governor of Indiana declared a public health emergency on March 26, 2015,” the study said, concluding that “an earlier public health response could have substantially reduced the total number of HIV infections (estimated to have been 183–184 infections by Aug 11, 2015).”

“It was a total collapse of public health leadership and a dereliction of duty in Indiana,” one of the study’s authors, Yale epidemiologist Gregg Gonsalves, told the Washington Post. “They could have avoided this epidemic if science took the lead instead of ideology.”

While it can’t really be known what would have happened if Pence and others had acted differently, the paper uses mathematical modeling to conclude better surveillance and earlier public health actions would have lessened the epidemic.

“A comprehensive response, including access to clean syringes for people who inject drugs, as well as therapies such as buprenorphine and methadone, could avoid new outbreaks of HIV and HCV in at-risk counties in the first place,” Gonsalves told Yale News in 2018.

With Pence’s new responsibilities in dealing with the coronavirus, his response to the HIV crisis in Scott County has returned to the spotlight. Pence told Hannity that he thinks one of the reasons President Donald Trump picked him to head the administration’s coronavirus response was his experience in handling the HIV episode.

The outbreak of HIV was linked to extensive use by Scott County residents of a prescription opioid painkiller called Opana, which was taken off the market in 2017. Needle-sharing was common in the area, where many members of a family often live in the same house.

Experts say that in situations like the one in Scott County needle exchange programs are essential. But Pence, a social conservative, was very much opposed to them, seeing them as contributing to drug abuse. (According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, however, syringe services programs “do not cause or increase illegal drug use.”) It took much lobbying by other officials to get Pence to give the program — which was illegal in Indiana — the green light.

On March 23, 2015, months after the outbreak began, Pence said he was going home to pray on the issue, according to the New York Times. Soon afterward he declared a public health emergency and approved the program. “It was disappointing that it took so much effort to bring the governor on board,” Ed Clere, a Republican state representative who championed the needle exchange, told the Times in 2016.

Even as he announced the new approach, Pence made clear his reluctance to adopt it. “I do not enter into this lightly,” he said. “I don’t believe effective anti-drug policy involves handing out drug paraphernalia.”

Once launched, the program was considered a success. According to the New England Journal of Medicine, 97,000 syringes were distributed to the 277 people who signed up. They were taking a median of five injections a day, according to the publication.

Despite the criticism, Pence continues to talk positively about his reaction to the HIV crisis.

“Indiana would go on to change the law to mirror what action I had taken,” he told Hannity. “It was a moment where we had brought — we had brought all of the resources to bear, first from a health perspective, a law enforcement perspective, and I’m glad to say that we got all of those people treated. Everyone was able to get support and help and we move forward and the community recovered.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; hiv; mikepence
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To: SeekAndFind

Fact-Check: Obama Waited Until ‘Millions’ Infected and 1000 Dead in U.S. Before Declaring H1N1 Emergency.


21 posted on 02/29/2020 3:56:09 PM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe the homos should have moved slower.


22 posted on 02/29/2020 3:59:57 PM PST by gop4lyf (Gay marriage is neither. Democrats are the party of sore losers and pedophiles.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Pete Buttigieg and his supporters are far more responsible for spreading AIDS than Pence.


23 posted on 02/29/2020 4:03:33 PM PST by bort
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To: SeekAndFind

https://pjmedia.com/trending/fact-check-obama-waited-until-millions-infected-and-1000-dead-in-u-s-before-declaring-h1n1-emergency/


24 posted on 02/29/2020 4:25:03 PM PST by rfp1234
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To: Repeal The 17th

Give me a viable alternative if Trump is gone in 2024.


25 posted on 02/29/2020 4:25:47 PM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: SeekAndFind

< reference type=LOTR >A little secret, Pence is an Ent. < reference >


26 posted on 02/29/2020 4:27:23 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn....)
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To: hawkaw
What am I missing? Pence had supported Trump well as VP.

Same with VP HWBush under Reagan. So what? Bush was a predicable disaster - part of the establishment RINO problem.

Remember, we're only one election away from the disappearance of America as we know it.

Business as usual doesn't cut it anymore.

27 posted on 02/29/2020 4:30:05 PM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: VeniVidiVici

If I could I would. Kinda beside the point, huh? Other than Trump himself, don’t see anyone to do what MUST be done in 2024 and beyond.


28 posted on 02/29/2020 4:32:42 PM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: o-n-money

YUP!

KYPIYP!

Works EVERY time!


29 posted on 02/29/2020 4:34:11 PM PST by Taxman (We will never be a truly FRee people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Fact-Check: Obama Waited Until 'Millions' Infected and 1000 Dead in U.S. Before Declaring H1N1 Emergency
30 posted on 02/29/2020 4:38:59 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

Fact Check Obama sat and did NOTHING while our people were killed in Benghazi!!!!


31 posted on 02/29/2020 4:41:08 PM PST by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: SeekAndFind
“Had he acted earlier, I believe that the worst parts of the HIV epidemic could have been avoided.”

How? You mean he should have told homosexual men not to . . . act homosexually?

I'm not sure they would have listened. What do you think?

32 posted on 02/29/2020 4:41:23 PM PST by SamuraiScot (am)
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To: o-n-money
"HIV is a very preventable disease. I don’t need a governor to tell me what I shouldn’t do."

Preventable, but now Washington State is trying to reduce the punishment of deliberately infecting someone with the disease. They want to make it a misdemeanor.

33 posted on 02/29/2020 4:41:38 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: Jim W N

think its a bad idea to amend the constitution to give more terms to Trump at the end of 8 years we will need new blood and new ideas.


34 posted on 02/29/2020 4:44:51 PM PST by PCPOET7
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To: kaehurowing
"Look what free needles have done for Sh*t Francisco."

When you have to warn the public to check for syringes before they sit down on public transportation or anywhere else, then you've lost control of the program. The potential is just as high of someone being infected by a syringe disposed of incorrectly.

35 posted on 02/29/2020 4:45:13 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: SeekAndFind

Fact Check - Rem Rieder is an ass..that is a fact.


36 posted on 02/29/2020 4:52:26 PM PST by richardtavor
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To: SeekAndFind
What the hell are these people talking about? I remember when the AIDS outbreak started in New York State's prisons in the early 80's, and it escalated after that. Back then, individuals were isolated...put in quarantine, and of course, back then there was no cure or even prescription medicine that could save anyone. Most people infected, died from other illnesses, like pneumonia, because it destroyed their immune system. And back then, the majority of those infected were homos. The main individuals who should have been responsible for preventing the spread of the disease were the gay community. They were told to take precautions.

So they're trying to pin something on Mike Pence for an increased level of HIV cases in one area of Indiana 20 years after the disease had already had its most major outbreaks. In those 20 years, research has brought about many treatment plans. What used to be a death sentence is now a treatable disease. Whoever these people were in Indiana, they certainly didn't contract HIV because of Mike Pence.

37 posted on 02/29/2020 4:57:04 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: SeekAndFind

So they’re saying that in fact the needle program ended up not being necessary at all? Having peaked and declining before it was put into place?


38 posted on 02/29/2020 4:57:52 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: SeekAndFind

A disease caused by illicit sex and illegal drug use.....should be a much lower priority than diseases not caused by immoral behavior.


39 posted on 02/29/2020 5:01:15 PM PST by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Well, we still need to help those who contracted AIDS accidentally due to infected blood transfusion.”

It is doubtful that anyone who contracted HIV from a contaminated blood transfusion in the early 1980’s is still living.


40 posted on 02/29/2020 5:09:51 PM PST by 43north (Its hard to stop a man when he knows he's right and he keeps coming.)
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