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Voting for Who You Hate to Stop Who You Loathe
Townhall.com ^ | February 28, 2020 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 02/28/2020 1:08:05 PM PST by Kaslin

Can we acknowledge no real conservative would vote for Sen. Bernie Sanders over President Donald Trump? If you want, you can sit out because the process grosses you out and you hate them all. But actively voting for a socialist to stop the populist disqualifies you from ever talking about conservatism.

You can rationalize it and say that four years of Sanders would be ineffective because of Congressional gridlock, but that can be said of Trump, too. Trump, at least at the regulatory level, has rolled back government, not expanded it. Sanders would undermine the private sector, the free market, churches and individual liberty, without ever involving Congress.

Stop posing as a conservative if you are going with Sanders. It'd be far better to sit it out. To go for Sanders is really an admission that your pride is suffering, not the country.

As for the rest of us, ironically, millions are going to turn out to vote for a guy they hate to stop a guy they loathe. I know a lot of people who refused to vote for Trump in 2016 who will crawl over broken glass to support him in 2020 against Sanders. I know Democrats who despise Sanders but consider Trump a bigger threat because of judges, deregulation, etc.

The upside is, perhaps, that our politics are getting so broken that people will realize they have to do something different at the local level. Our politics are only going to get better if people actually turn away from Washington and start focusing on their local communities. People burning out on national politics and convinced the country is held hostage by the fringes of either side is actually good. It will get them to stop worrying about Washington and start worrying about their local communities instead.

Mike Bloomberg is going to try to present an alternative. He intends to spend millions on advertisements to emphasize the negative outcomes of a Sanders presidency. It might actually help Trump more than Bloomberg. But Bloomberg is going to do his best to stop Sanders.

I am writing this before the South Carolina primary, which Joe Biden is expected to win. Sanders will pick up more delegates, because he will come in with above 15% of the vote. Three days later is Super Tuesday. That will see races in Alabama, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Maine, Massachusetts, Minnesota, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont and Virginia.

Sanders is going to win most of California's 495 delegates. Texas has 262 delegates. Recent polling has Sanders surging in Texas with Bloomberg actually holding Biden back from winning. With Bloomberg on the ballot, Sanders may win outright or keep it very close. Sanders will, therefore, continue to pick up delegates while also winning most Super Tuesday states, if the polls are right.

The next major haul will be Florida with 248 delegates, and Sanders may be shut out there. But he is going up in the polls there, too. It is presumed his pro-Castro comments will stall him out in Florida. Even if they do, Sanders will still keep leading in delegates for the time being.

Biden will keep picking up delegates, too. That keeps Biden in the race fighting Bloomberg. Sen. Elizabeth Warren also has no reason to get out, because she is doing well in several polls and will gain delegates on Super Tuesday. She is also a useful instrument to attack the establishment in a way that protects Sanders.

Bloomberg has pushed a media storyline that only he can stop Sanders. The reality is Bloomberg has, as of now, exactly zero delegates. Sanders leads in delegates, with Pete Buttigieg, Joe Biden, Elizabeth Warren and Amy Klobuchar all having delegates, too. Bloomberg would like to throw the race into disarray and force a brokered Democratic convention. But the reality is the communists will either win it or riot -- and they might riot even if they win it.

If Sanders wins the most states, the most delegates and the most votes, Democrats will be hard-pressed to deny him the nomination. This will be fun to watch.


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1 posted on 02/28/2020 1:08:05 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

eric is a POS!


2 posted on 02/28/2020 1:10:27 PM PST by JoSixChip (I'm an American Nationalist)
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To: Kaslin

This is one of those faux conservatives, whose only cache is being a never trumper and predicting Hillary winning in 2016.


3 posted on 02/28/2020 1:12:17 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Kaslin

Failure to use the objective x2


4 posted on 02/28/2020 1:12:26 PM PST by gasport (The dung beetle should be the symbol of the Democrat Party)
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To: Kaslin
Can we acknowledge no real conservative would vote for Sen. Bernie Sanders over President Donald Trump?

Mitt Romney. No wait, he wrote real conservative.

5 posted on 02/28/2020 1:14:36 PM PST by RubinBoomer (Please be nice. I am new here. I'm open to doing things the FR way, just need to know.)
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To: Kaslin

As I read this he is saying vote for Trump even if you don’t like him and that if you vote for Sanders in the General Election you lose any right to ever call yourself a conservative.

That’s about as good as you can expect from a Never Trump guy


6 posted on 02/28/2020 1:16:33 PM PST by Fai Mao (this should not be considered an invitation, or desire to see this ocurr)
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To: Kaslin

Not really interested in what Fat Erick has to say.

Please go away.


7 posted on 02/28/2020 1:22:31 PM PST by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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To: Kaslin

This temporary D is gonna vote for Bernie in Florida D primary on March 17. Bernie has been getting a regular monthly stipend (very small) to boost his donor #s.

It would be funny if fake Ds push Bernie over 15% after his Castro related blunders.


8 posted on 02/28/2020 1:24:02 PM PST by gasport (The dung beetle should be the symbol of the Democrat Party)
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To: gasport

This temporary D is going to do the same.


9 posted on 02/28/2020 1:27:02 PM PST by samtheman (FReepers all do want Bernie to get the dem nomination, right? (Just to be clear))
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To: gasport

I was gonna do the same here in Texas for the primary but I just can’t go in there and say, “I’m a Democrat”


10 posted on 02/28/2020 1:29:53 PM PST by Undecided 2012
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To: gasport

Yea this temp D will be voting Tuesday here in MA.
I guess it will be for bernie.....any other suggestions?
Definitely NOT Warren.


11 posted on 02/28/2020 1:38:30 PM PST by mowowie
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To: Undecided 2012

Oh, do it in solidarity with the Proletariate.

Vote, then go home and watch returns nibbling on Rocky Road.

Once I open a half gallon, there are no survivors - only do this on state occasions and bonfire nights.


12 posted on 02/28/2020 1:40:35 PM PST by gasport (The dung beetle should be the symbol of the Democrat Party)
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To: Kaslin

meh

It’s the Pillsbury Dough Boy’s body double and famous Never Trumper


13 posted on 02/28/2020 1:44:14 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Kaslin

The Republican party has no, zip, zero, nada, zilch chance of replacing Donald J. Trump on the ballot in 2020, the next opportunity that could occur is in 2024. Nobody else running in 2020 is even remotely close to being “conservative” in the prospects of how the country is to be ordered and run over the next four years.

Every one, EVERY one, of the persons running against Trump is either to the left of him or FAR to the left of him. Nobody is to the right of Trump, or even anywhere near in the same territory. As of now, he clearly has the field to himself.

Donald J. Trump may be crude, rude or even somewhat lewd as the circumstances arise, but he is also pretty darned shrewd, and shrewd is what we need in a fast-moving world where things can turn on a dime and require a whole different perspective virtually in an eyeblink.


14 posted on 02/28/2020 1:51:46 PM PST by alloysteel (Freedom is not a matter of life and death. It is much more serious than that..)
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“People burning out on national politics and convinced the country is held hostage by the fringes of either side is actually good. It will get them to stop worrying about Washington and start worrying about their local communities instead.”

Right, because winning the fight for the local school board or water reclamation district is going to save you from the impositions of those unelected judges and bureaucrats who are eviscerating all your rights and freedoms.


15 posted on 02/28/2020 1:55:17 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: KC_Conspirator

Well, since he is advocating for Trump now, I don’t see how you can call him a “Never Trumper”. Seems more like a “Sometimes Trumper”.


16 posted on 02/28/2020 1:56:22 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: JoSixChip
And if Mr Sanders wins the Nomination, vote fraud will be at at a frantic and near universal level this year and if it gets him the win, he will carry the House and the Senate with him. Consider the consequences of that. I do NOT want to see him as Trump's opponent. Trump nearly lost in 2016 due to vote manipulation in Florida which did not succeed due only to incompetence on the part of the Democrat vote counters.

I cannot imagine the Democrats this year limiting that sort of vote augmentation to only a few big Democrat cities in a couple of states.They really feel that they had made their Revolution in 2016 and had it stolen from them by the Governor of Florida who intervened to short circuit Broward and Palm Beach County vote fraud. Fanatics who feel cheated are sure to go all out in later efforts.

17 posted on 02/28/2020 2:19:17 PM PST by arthurus (rkr)
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To: samtheman

I will not. We would do much better if Bernie leads but does not cross the magic 50%. The Bernie fanatics will not vote for another Democrat and will stay home except for a few who will vote for Donald Trump for spite. Antifa and Bernie crazies will open up with widespread violence which will push many less than commie Democrats to vote for the anti violence Republican. That is a surer and bigger win for DJT than running directly against Bernie the Red.


18 posted on 02/28/2020 2:24:09 PM PST by arthurus (rkry)
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To: alloysteel

And Shrewd is a quality sorely lacking in the Republican Party while the Democrats are full of Conniving with a bit of its higher IQ relative Shrewdness.


19 posted on 02/28/2020 2:26:42 PM PST by arthurus (rkryh)
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To: Kaslin

JUDGES you imbecilic Never Trump arrogant narcissistic scum.

And Eric the Pompous, you arejust as pathetically bad with your infantile “above it all” posturing to avoid admitting you were 100% dead wrong in 2016. You are a useful idiot for the Democrat Party propaganda mill with your sheer gutless and shameless narcissistic pompous fiddling while Rome burns. Turn off you way over inflated ego and get in the fight for once.

Trump has done more good for Conservatives just with Judges alone then either of the Bush’s ever did.

Most of the Leftist agenda is imposed by Courts. Most of what has stooped Conservative agenda items has been activist Judges

From Abortion to Gay Marriage it has been activist Judges legislating from the bench upheld by superior courts. Trump is quietly enacting a revolution in the US Judiciary

PULL YOUR ARROGANCE IMBECILIC heads out of your asses for the 1st time since 2015 you utterly moronic Never Trump clowns.


20 posted on 02/28/2020 2:46:09 PM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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