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Coronavirus bombshell as 14% of patients who recovered test positive again
Daily Star ^ | Feb 27, 2020 | Sofie Jackson

Posted on 02/27/2020 10:14:59 AM PST by DannyTN

China has discovered that roughly 14% of patients who recover from coronavirus test positive for the killer disease again – with the mechanism behind the virus' apparent ability to re-infect a complete mystery.

This comes after Japan reported that a female tour-bus guide aged in her 40s had tested positive for the COVID-19 virus for a second time in Osaka.

Normally, when you overcome a virus you gain immunity for a while afterwards which is why it is so rare for children to get chickenpox twice. ...

(Excerpt) Read more at dailystar.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chinavirus; chinavirusinfo; communityspread; coronavirus; covid19; reinfection; sarscov2; virus; wuhan
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To: DannyTN

It was mentioned today on today’s Steve Bannon’s War Room Pandemic that the SARS vaccine development exposed a strange side effect that is related to this. Apparently mice would survive the vaccine and have a testable immunity, but then they would die suddenly when exposed to the real virus. Their immune systems would over react and kill them. This might explain why some people who seem healthy would die suddenly from what is possibly a second exposure.


81 posted on 02/27/2020 11:18:23 AM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: DannyTN

A couple thoughts as new details are emerging. I think the CV was an engineered virus, probably right there in Wuhan’s Level 4 biolab. Details are not really clear at this point, but there are a few possible scenarios here that account for apparent re-infection: 1. The virus is mutating, and they’re getting re-infected by a different strain, 2. They never actually recovered, but only appeared to have recovered, 3. The tests they’re using are throwing false positives (and possibly false negatives), 4. The virus goes dormant, perhaps by design, and then “reactivates” based on some unknown trigger, 5. When the body fights off the virus, it does not “remember” the immune response when it gets presented with the virus again, like it does with pretty much all other viruses; once you fight them off, your body develops antibodies. Perhaps CV was engineered to cause the body to not be able to develop antibodies that remain for any duration.

What has had me a little perplexed for a while now is that if it is engineered, why is it not really that lethal? Why engineer something that is basically like the flu? Well, either it wasn’t really engineered, and my assumption is wrong, or we don’t really know everything there is to know about the virus yet. The “second shoe has yet to drop,” in other words. If this re-infection issue starts to show up more an more, we could have a real clue about whether this was engineered.


82 posted on 02/27/2020 11:19:08 AM PST by agatheringstorm
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To: lgjhn23
Other than outright assassination, it is all they had left to bring down the POTUS

You say that like assassination is off the table...

83 posted on 02/27/2020 11:19:29 AM PST by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: Alas Babylon!; bigbob

A couple of seasons ago there was a virus in the USNE nicknamed “the crud” which would wax and wane in an affected individual for nearly three months.

You caught it in November and it hung around until March.


84 posted on 02/27/2020 11:19:31 AM PST by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: DannyTN

Is it truly reinfection, or a faulty test?


85 posted on 02/27/2020 11:19:55 AM PST by MortMan (Shouldn't "palindrome" read the same forward and backward?)
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To: bigbob

It isn’t easy to engineer reinfection, absent mutation.


86 posted on 02/27/2020 11:20:54 AM PST by MortMan (Shouldn't "palindrome" read the same forward and backward?)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I’d go for green chili bat jerky. :). J/k


87 posted on 02/27/2020 11:21:00 AM PST by Redcitizen (Nobody needs a 10 round magazine. You need a 30 round magazine.)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

Good point.


88 posted on 02/27/2020 11:22:22 AM PST by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: DannyTN
From the links above:

According to the message..., “It’s highly possible to get infected a second time. A few people recovered from the first time..., but the meds they use are damaging their heart tissue, and when they get it the second time, the antibody doesn’t help but makes it worse, and they die a sudden death from heart failure.”

Maybe health pros over-reacted and over-medicated patients? If the medicine is undermining the heart it can't be doing much for a patient's resistance. Question: could those drugs be undermining immunity. Someone declared once their theory that Lyme's destruction was due to the immune system going a little haywire after the infection is cleared. Could that be going on here? Could the bug, or the treatment be triggering an auto-immune reaction?

I'm late to the table on this, and know just enough to be dangerous should somebody let me near a stethoscope. That said, can anybody clue me in: aren't diseases often diagnosed by markers on constituents of the immune system? If that's the case here then anyone would test positive after exposure, cured or not. What are these tests measuring?

Let me reiterate: I know sh!t. Don't dare take anything said for fact! These are questions and I'm happy to bow down to anyone who can shine a little light

89 posted on 02/27/2020 11:24:38 AM PST by tsomer (Trump: the meanest SOB that ever loved our country!)
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To: DannyTN

That’s because they don’t really recover. Just as once you get HIV you never recover either. (HIV was spliced into the Wuhan virus, wasn’t it)


90 posted on 02/27/2020 11:25:57 AM PST by Starcitizen (American. No hypenation necessary. Send the H1B and H4EAD slime home. American jobs for Americans)
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To: blam

Yes. in many it can be worse the second time around.


91 posted on 02/27/2020 11:26:58 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: agatheringstorm

Early on I believe I saw some reports the virus had some indications of a HIV combination. If that is so, that would account for the reinfection, the strain was not cured, and that it was enginered in bio lab. That perhaps is why China is NOT letting anyone in to look over the problem at the source.

If this is so, I would have no problem with eliminating China from the planet.


92 posted on 02/27/2020 11:28:19 AM PST by Mouton (The media is the enemy of the people.)
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To: Wayne07; xkaydet65; null and void

Could it be they are exaggerating the number of sick, in order to purge/disappear opponents behind the scenes? Just a theory. Suddenly, ‘all is better - thanks for playing. Back to production.....’


93 posted on 02/27/2020 11:31:54 AM PST by 4Liberty (NEW RULES. --- Dan Bongino)
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To: DannyTN

Is “testing positive” the same as “sick with the disease”? Or does it just mean that the virus is present and the person is not sick?

This is important to know. Sounds like it is, but we need to know.

Stop all flights to/from anywhere in China.


94 posted on 02/27/2020 11:32:42 AM PST by I want the USA back (We have sunk to a depth where restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men:Orwell)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

Dengue does this.


95 posted on 02/27/2020 11:33:35 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: tbw2
tbw2 :" What are the odds it has mutated so there is more than one strain?"

There is still much information we don't yet have about COVID-9, and the Chinese are not very forthcoming with information.
The Chinese won't even let the CDC into the country.
Who has still not declared a pandemic, and the current director is NOT a physician.
It is not likely that WHO will declare a pandemic as it a declaration sets certain international legal wheels into motion.
If you recall during the Ebola virus, there were instances of people who were cured
but later testing found virus continuing to be vialbe in male testes 6 months later,
and other instances of the virus still being viable in the vitreous eyes of survivors.
Perhaps a 'cure' is not thorough enough, and may be a temp set-back, and in fact, reactivate at a later date (?).

96 posted on 02/27/2020 11:34:33 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: DannyTN

People here are making all kinds of claims and spreading theories.

Do any of these people have a medical background? Are they currently involved in research or treating patients?

Doesn’t sound like it...

As for worrying, that will only shorten your life. As for depending on the govt to fix it...we should all know better than that by now.


97 posted on 02/27/2020 11:34:40 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Epstein pulled a Carradine, the bozo.)
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To: DannyTN

Nothing here, move on. /s


98 posted on 02/27/2020 11:37:16 AM PST by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: 4Liberty

Everything that happens in this world is a conspiracy.

Everything.

Your family is part of it.

And so are you.


99 posted on 02/27/2020 11:38:14 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Epstein pulled a Carradine, the bozo.)
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To: Starcitizen

I was thinking of herpes


100 posted on 02/27/2020 11:38:15 AM PST by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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