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I’m not going to be a slavish adherent of everything Trump does, while being an avid supporter of his administration. His appointment of this and other homosexuals in his administration is a massive mistake.
1 posted on 02/23/2020 8:42:06 AM PST by fwdude
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Link to Dr. Lively’s video version of the essay.

https://youtu.be/g37OFdtceTU


2 posted on 02/23/2020 8:43:13 AM PST by fwdude (Poverty is nearly always a mindset, which canÂ’t be cured by cash)
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Scott Lively is a crackpot thumper.


3 posted on 02/23/2020 8:47:16 AM PST by JonPreston
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Scott Lively is a nutjob. At this point, I’m far more concerned with whether or not Ric Grenell cleans out the swamp at DNI than who he sleeps with or whether or not he is married to a man. We are in a fight to the death for this country and idiots like Lively are still harping on the homosexual agenda.


4 posted on 02/23/2020 8:50:04 AM PST by usafa92 (Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America)
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I cannot find any support from Grenell , whom I do like, expressing support for the “Progressive “ lbgtq agenda.


5 posted on 02/23/2020 8:52:38 AM PST by griswold3 (Democratic Socialism is Slavery by Mob Rule)
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I’m amazed anybody cares this much on the subject.

Being openly homo does not force anyone else to do anything.

And that’s the entire premise of his rant.


6 posted on 02/23/2020 8:55:16 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Trump isn’t going to discriminate against a person based on sexual orientation. The reason gay men used to be considered a security risk is because outing them would destroy their lives. This meant that they could be easily blackmailed. If he’s out of the closet he can’t be blackmailed over this.


7 posted on 02/23/2020 8:56:32 AM PST by BlackAdderess
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From the standpoint of evolution of the species, homosexuals will literally fornicated themselves to death, by natural law. Don’t get too impatient. They may be of some social / political / practical use that benefits mankind in the meantime.

And from a cosmological perspective, reports of past lives of people experiencing both sexes over different lives are common. So apparently, during Eternity, we’re not in a physical state that would support our moral prejudices when we exist in our physical state. Hence the need for rein-tarnation.


8 posted on 02/23/2020 8:58:36 AM PST by RideForever (We were born to be tested)
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My first thought was that I hope the ‘temporary’ status remains that, and that he is replaced by a great conservative who wants to wound the Deep State.


10 posted on 02/23/2020 9:06:21 AM PST by richardtavor
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Do not buy into homosexual “marriage” and will not pretend there is no difference between homos and a heteros “families”.
And i would never allow them to adopt children.
Go ahead and do whatever you do..in private.. but quit appropriating heterosexual culture which has been around for two thousand years.


11 posted on 02/23/2020 9:06:28 AM PST by Leep (Everyday is Trump Day!)
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What do you know about him besides his sexual orientation ...nothing?


13 posted on 02/23/2020 9:09:28 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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Otherwise, if Grenell does the job he is there to do..without inserting (no pun intended) his sexuality into his job.i can live with him in that position (again, no pun intended).


17 posted on 02/23/2020 9:16:17 AM PST by Leep (Everyday is Trump Day!)
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I don’t know much about the Ambassador, but I do know about Trump. From what he says, he has placed Grinnel in this position on a temporary basis to clean up the intelligence agencies. Brennen and crowd have really infected our intel organizations with people up to no good. They have lied incessantly to the President and Congress. They are not trusted by anyone except the radical democrats. Meanwhile he is deciding who the permanent Director of National Security will be. This tells me that Grinnel is one he trusts can do the job, then step away and the permanent guy step in and make it right. That is how I see it!!


18 posted on 02/23/2020 9:17:02 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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I’m not going to be a slavish adherent of everything Trump does

Neither am I - but the fact that Trump's got no problem with gay people should be no surprise to anyone. He's doing most of the things I want done, and that's what matters. And as long as Grinell starts to clean up the corrupt, treasonous mess of US intelligence, I'm fine with him.
19 posted on 02/23/2020 9:17:09 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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Thank you for this post even though it ruined my day. Scott Lively is a very brave, brilliant man. I’m very disappointed in President Trump (and a couple of freepers) and this more than anything I’ve seen in a long time makes me really fear for the future of the country. I was greatly disappointed when I realized that Trump’s number one spiritual advisor is Paula White . I can see her influence at work. It now would not amaze me if one year from today we start talking about President Sanders and this country is changed forever. You don’t spit in God’s face and expect no consequences.


23 posted on 02/23/2020 9:22:08 AM PST by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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It’s not sexual progressive theory it’s just sexual attraction - I don’t see find hairy butts attractive myself but hey whatever floats your boat.

That said I don’t support gay marriage because it’s an oxymoron and stupid.

I also agree with the Bible that homosexuality is ultimately harmful to a society and a person - both in terms of procreation and of ultimately leading a fulfilling life but that’s purely a theological matter - not a governmental secular one.

if Trump was putting him in charge of education or boys health I’d be concerned - intel? He’s already out so he can’t be blackmailed or compromised that way.

I care more about his ideological attitudes - if he’s gonna clean house I wanna see the Dems try to socially destroy a gay man. (not that they haven’t been hypocriical about this already - see Ben Carson, Clarence Thomas, etc;)


30 posted on 02/23/2020 9:36:14 AM PST by Skywise
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Seems some folks here are able to cast the first stone.


36 posted on 02/23/2020 9:49:45 AM PST by Tejas Rob
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The Killshot for gays being democrat is ask them “if there is a test to determine if an unborn baby is homosexual, would you be OK with the parents aborting it?”

When the homosexual comes back with “I don’t see Christians aborting homosexual babies”, ask him what about Muslims, African Americans and Asians?... they would.

The science shows the majority of gay men were born that way. Sure there are groomed or prison conversions, but straight men like sex with women and gay men do not.

This science of Gay is way more settled than CO2 causes global warming.

Thumpers need to pick their battles. If gays can help them have less babies be killed or keep a one world government from happening, they need to accept the help.


39 posted on 02/23/2020 9:57:06 AM PST by UNGN (I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
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The Killshot for gays being democrat is ask them “if there is a test to determine if an unborn baby is homosexual, would you be OK with the parents aborting it?”

When the homosexual comes back with “I don’t see Christians aborting homosexual babies”, ask him what about Muslims, African Americans and Asians?... they would.

The science shows the majority of gay men were born that way. Sure there are groomed or prison conversions, but straight men like sex with women and gay men do not.

This science of Gay is way more settled than CO2 causes global warming.

Thumpers need to pick their battles. If gays can help them have less babies be killed or keep a one world government from happening, they need to accept the help.


40 posted on 02/23/2020 9:57:06 AM PST by UNGN (I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
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This is just a wrong attitude you have. I am no fan of homosexuality but there are several of them who are great patriots. You should pray for them and not be so myopic. What if you required surgery that was necessary to save your life and the only doctor who could do it was same sex oriented?


42 posted on 02/23/2020 10:00:53 AM PST by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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The Intelligence Community chapter of the Administrative State, the so called Deep State are determined to overthrow our current government and to completely dominate the entire government apparatus. They have been working on this behind the scenes for years, but in the Trump era, they have come out in the open and are willing to commit crimes in the bright daylight.

Those who are working to destroy Grennel, like Sen Chris Matthews and the other Democrat Organized Crime Syndicate members are desperate to keep Trump away from the Intel cabal and will do anything to achieve it. They are happy to welcome help from any useful idiots ready to attack him. Ignore all of this, especially the nonsense that is coming from the media.

This is a fight to the death and provides an opportunity for us to put an end to their schemes. They made a major misstep when they thought that Clinton would win the Presidency and that they could use that event to destroy first Trump, then the Conservative movement, and finally the Republican Party. They belived that they could transform elections into a Soviet style sham, beginning in 2018. Unfortunately, they lost the 2016 election and were forced to bring their resistance in the open. If we can’t win the 2020 election and reelect Trump, they will put an end to our wonderful Republic form of government.


44 posted on 02/23/2020 10:06:30 AM PST by centurion316 (.)
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