Posted on 01/26/2020 8:05:50 PM PST by DoodleBob
Get it?"
Lol, yeah, I "get it." Thanks for the reply.
"Mouthing off?" LOL! What, in my post, is factually inaccurate (aside from the acknowledged error of saying it was 1.15% instead of 0.015%)?
Is the MERS data cited incurred? What about the SARS data? How about the "influenza" data? Are you alleging the CDC is lying about that data? Are you saying, as of yesterday when the citations were posted, that those who have died in China were not 48 - 89 year old?
Where exactly is the "mouthing off?"
Go throw yourself down a well next time, you tomfool of a Took, and rid us of your stupidity."
You want me to kill myself? What is wrong with you? Are you okay? Do you need some help?
You had written earlier which prompted my "throw yourself down a well, you Tom-fool of a Took" response (Gandalf, you know, from the Lord of the Rings movie), the following:
0.1% Far more than the currently known 2019-nCoV mortality rate.
Right now the best guesstimate for 2019-nCoV mortality rate is 2%-3%.
OK, granted, it's hard to tell between
a) the lag time between infection and death
b) the number of cases NOT diagnosed (no test kits, or pressure to just call it "pneumonia" not CoV)
c) out-and-out-lying by China.
But still, it looks pretty clear from their massive reaction including quarantining 50 million people during Chinese New Year, and using retroviral anti-AIDS drugs (why bother for just the flu?)...it's way WORSE than 0.1%.
2% - 3% fatality rate is...horrible, in terms of societal effects.
I get it, mindless "hair on fire" panic is bad; but Pollyanna-ish complacency is also very bad, ok?
Who said anything about "complacency?"
Certainly not me.
Perhaps you intended to reply to someone else who said (or alluded to) we should be complacent.
I invite you to go back and re-read what I wrote. The pertinent parts being:
While this particular virus, 2019-nCoV, can mutate to become more virulent at a drop of the hat (just like most other viruses), it's current mortality rate is around 4%.
Now, of course, we hear reports of the Chinese authorities "quarantining" many millions of people across several cities. Those are generally drastic measures. Maybe they are simply trying to stay ahead of this as much as possible. Or, maybe (almost certainly) they haven't been as transparent with this latest outbreak as they should be.
Time to panic regarding 2019-nCoV? No.
Time to be prepared...and be aware? Yes (although, it's always time to be prepared and aware).
It's terrible what the Chinese gov't has done to it's citizens...and not just on this issue.
Their "healthcare" system is also nowhere near what ours is (with all it's own shortcomings) regarding multi-disciplinary competency, technology, record keeping and on and on. [1].
And that primarily concerns their largest / most advanced cities. The health care system where this virus broke out is even worse than that. 3rd world indeed.
This is part of the reason they couldn't control this coronavirus as well as they could have.
As of today, there are a reported 4,587 (at least) confirmed cases worldwide, with some 131 deaths.
100% of the deaths occurred in China with the vast majority in the Hubei province (epicenter).[2][3].
No deaths have occurred anywhere outside China. It's been reported that no-one outside of China who has 2019-nCoV is in critical condition. The worst being the single patient in Germany who was in "serious" condition (i.e. not as bad as "critical"). This points, in part, to the level of healthcare and associated disciplines involved in China.
This, of course, doesn't even touch on the issue of the pre-existing conditions of those who died. Last I saw a few days ago, all were 48 years old and older. Did they have compromised immune systems to begin with?
Regarding this specific coronavirus, there WILL be more infected. There WILL be more deaths. The overwhelming vast majority WILL be in China.
Regarding the effect within the U.S., panic? No. Be prepared and be aware? Yes.
Have a nice day!
If it is (as China reports) transmissible without symptoms, and one can catch it through the eyes (and human-to-human has now been documented as of Tuesday in Germany and *I think* Taiwan-or-was-it-Japan*, underestimating fatality rates by a factor of 20 or 30 times, is not wise.
Be prepared and be aware? Yes.
Have a nice day!
Make preparations to stay at home if necessary, and be prepared to make a case for doing so, to your job, if possible.
There are reports that entire villages in China are *walling themselves in* to keep out outsiders.
Ping - it’s as if you had a crystal ball.
Now THAT was prescient.
Sounds pretty good, but there is a growing body count. I
don’t like that, and folks are on track when they talk about
that not being optimal. I don’t want to see the number get
too high, but it already is too high.
The mortality rate is low, but it’s the sheer number of
confirmed cases that is driving the deaths.
We’ll have our millionth case in the next 48 hours or so.
Sad...
Your posts (which are great btw) help shed light on the sheer numbers and the humanity involved. Thank you.
Thanks Doodlebob. I appreciate your comments.
Thank you. But most people could ignore their desire for continuing normalcy long enough to see what’s coming, if they wanted to. Considering causes and effects was easy.
You, FRiend, have been consistent.
Thank you.
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