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To: RummyChick

So, your premise is the US government (or any one of the thousands of other hackish conspiracy theories) built a virus and released it in China, a virus that mainly functions as a souped up influenza, that generally kills the elderly with other health impediments?

Is that what we’re sticking with?

If I pull the other one, what do I get?


17 posted on 01/26/2020 5:45:40 AM PST by Brellium ("Thou shalt not shilly shally!" Aron Nimzowitsch)
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To: Brellium

No. I am giving you facts as we know them. I think it was an accident..and i do think it is a bioweapon.

People act like china couldn’t possibly have faulty construction of a bioweapons lab. I remind them Cdc shut down Fort Detrick in August for safety issues


18 posted on 01/26/2020 5:58:04 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: Brellium

Btw...it is a fact that the US built a virus just like this one. a FACT.

Google Chapel hill 2015


19 posted on 01/26/2020 6:00:12 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: Brellium
"So, your premise is the US government (or any one of the thousands of other hackish conspiracy theories) built a virus and released it in China" It has been suggested that this escaped from China's Biolab. (Located within 20 miles of the "Fish market">

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/did-china-steal-coronavirus-canada-and-weaponize-it
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BECAUSE Zero Hedge posting story from Indian twitter source additional confirmation was neccessary. I located this article from July of 2019):

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/07/mystery-surrounds-ouster-chinese-researchers-canadian-laboratory

On 5 July, officials at the National Microbiology Laboratory (NML) in Winnipeg, Canada, escorted Xiangguo Qiu, biologist Keding Cheng, and an unknown number of her students from the lab and revoked their access rights, according to Canadian media reports. The Public Health Agency of Canada, which operates the lab, confirmed it had referred an “administrative matter” matter to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, but said it would not provide additional details because of privacy concerns.

A number of observers have speculated that case involves concerns about the improper transfer of intellectual property to China. (All of the researchers involved are believed to be Asian.) But Frank Plummer, a former scientific director of NML who left in 2015, says the lab isn’t an obvious target for academic or industrial espionage. “There is nothing highly secret there, and all the work gets published in the open literature,” he says. “I don’t know what anyone would hope to gain by spying.”

This does NOT address all points of the ZH article, OR prove that this is an accidental release of a bio weapon, but DOES support the assertion that the Chinese stole biological material and research (along with any other intellectual property they can lay their hands on.) As far as the Former lab director stating that there was nothing secret or significant, well, people can make up their own minds.

We can only speculate if this is accidental, one of those "may the arrow they intended for others pierce their own liver!" sort of things. Perhap the Canadian lab could determine if this originated in their facuility based on samples from the U.S. or Canadian Coronavirus cases.

35 posted on 01/26/2020 7:42:59 AM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: Brellium

A Chinese scientist working in a biolab in Canada repotedly illegally sent samples of a virus to China. So these viruses are being shared purportedly for “research” purposes to work on vaccines or just gain more knowledge, but who knows what the Chicomms are actually doing with them once they recieve them.
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Last month, an acclaimed NML scientist — Xiangguo Qiu — was reportedly escorted out of the lab along with her husband, another biologist, and members of her research team. The agency said it was investigating an “administrative issue,” and had referred a possible policy breach to the RCMP. Little more has been said about the affair. https://beta.canada.com/health/bio-warfare-experts-question-why-canada-was-sending-lethal-viruses-to-china/wcm/fce2a521-4ce1-4eb0-8ccf-43f165713c0b/amp/

Another article:
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The NML scientist who was escorted out of the Canadian lab along with her husband, another biologist, and members of her research team is believed to be a Chinese Bio-Warfare agent Xiangguo Qiu. Qiu was the head of the Vaccine Development and Antiviral Therapies Section in the Special Pathogens Program at Canada’s NML.

Xiangguo Qiu is an outstanding Chinese scientist born in Tianjin. She primarily received her medical doctor degree from Hebei Medical University in China in 1985 and came to Canada for graduate studies in 1996. Later on, she was affiliated with the Institute of Cell Biology and the Department of Pediatrics and Child Health of the University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, not engaged with studying pathogens.

Dr. Xiangguo Qiu, the Chinese Biological Warfare Agent working at the National Microbiology Laboratory, Canada
But a shift took place, somehow. Since 2006, she has been studying powerful viruses in Canada’s NML. The viruses shipped from the NML to China were studied by her in 2014, for instance (together with the viruses Machupo, Junin, Rift Valley Fever, Crimean-Congo Hemorrhagic Fever and Hendra).

Infiltrating the Canadian Lab

Dr. Xiangguo Qiu is married to another Chinese scientist – Dr. Keding Cheng, also affiliated with the NML, specifically the “Science and Technology Core”. Dr. Cheng is primarily a bacteriologist who shifted to virology. The couple is responsible for infiltrating Canada’s NML with many Chinese agents as students from a range of Chinese scientific facilities directly tied to China’s Biological Warfare Program, namely:

Institute of Military Veterinary, Academy of Military Medical Sciences, Changchun
Center for Disease Control and Prevention, Chengdu Military Region
Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Hubei
Institute of Microbiology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Beijing

Sources say Xiangguo Qiu and her husband Keding Cheng were escorted from the National Microbiology Lab in Winnipeg on July 5, 2019. Since then, the University of Manitoba has ended their appointments, reassigned her graduate students, and cautioned staff, students and faculty about traveling to China. (Governor General’s Innovation Awards)
All of the above four mentioned Chinese Biological Warfare facilities collaborated with Dr. Xiangguo Qiu within the context of Ebola virus, the Institute of Military Veterinary joined a study on the Rift Valley fever virus too, while the Institute of Microbiology joined a study on Marburg virus. Noticeably, the drug used in the latter study – Favipiravir – has been earlier tested successfully by the Chinese Academy of Military Medical Sciences, with the designation JK-05 (originally a Japanese patent registered in China already in 2006), against Ebola and additional viruses.

However, the studies by Dr. Qiu are considerably more advanced and apparently vital for the Chinese biological weapons development in case Coronavirus, Ebola, Nipah, Marburg or Rift Valley fever viruses are included therein.

The Canadian investigation is ongoing and questions remain whether previous shipments to China of other viruses or other essential preparations, took place from 2006 to 2018, one way or another.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/did-china-steal-coronavirus-canada-and-weaponize-it


47 posted on 01/26/2020 1:26:35 PM PST by boxlunch (Pray for President Trump! Break up the Demomafia/LyinÂ’media/Deep State Axis of Disinformation.)
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