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Would Democrats Impeach Obama? His dealings with foreign officials and Congress look as suspect as Trump’s.
Wall Street Journal ^ | January 22, 2020 | Karl Rove

Posted on 01/23/2020 3:30:38 AM PST by karpov

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When considering the Democrats’ high-minded arguments, ask yourself: What if Hillary Clinton won in 2016? After she took office, it would have been revealed that her campaign hired the opposition-research firm Fusion GPS, which assigned Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence official, to reach out to Russian counterparts to solicit dirt on Donald Trump. Recall that the since-discredited dossier Mr. Steele peddled to the media in the fall of 2016 was made up of unsubstantiated rumors from former Russian agents.

It’s naive to believe the Kremlin was unaware that Mr. Steele asked Moscow pals for dirt on Mr. Trump. Those spies are retired, but they rely on Vladimir Putin for their pension checks. Who among congressional Democrats would now be calling for Mrs. Clinton’s removal if she were in the Oval Office? I doubt any. I’ve searched in vain for Democratic criticism for her soliciting foreign involvement in the 2016 election—the principal charge of their impeachment case against President Trump.

Furthermore, while Democrats say Mr. Trump should be removed for seeking a quid pro quo—a Ukrainian investigation of Joe and Hunter Biden in return for U.S. military aid—what about President Barack Obama’s March 2012 open-mic moment? At a summit in Seoul, he asked Russian President Dmitry Medvedev to tell his boss, then-Prime Minister Putin, that “on all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this can be solved but it’s important for him to give me space. . . . This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility.” In other words, if Mr. Putin didn’t create problems during Mr. Obama’s re-election fight with Mitt Romney, Mr. Obama would show “flexibility” on missile defense and other important issues of national security and foreign policy after the election. Again, crickets when it comes to Democratic criticism.

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1 posted on 01/23/2020 3:30:38 AM PST by karpov
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BAMMY could kick and shoot puppies on the White House lawn on a live broadcast and dims would never bat an eye.


2 posted on 01/23/2020 3:32:55 AM PST by ealgeone
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How and where did he get the midnight pallets of cash in various currencies? Were they all under $10K to avoid structuring? Who organized the flights?


3 posted on 01/23/2020 3:33:37 AM PST by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all Yeprotect and defend her! Merry Christmas! In God We Trust! Hi)
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What if Hillary Clinton won in 2016? After she took office, it would have been revealed that her campaign hired the opposition-research firm Fusion GPS

It would not have been revealed. She would have seen to that.

4 posted on 01/23/2020 3:38:50 AM PST by Jess Kitting
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“....look as suspect as Trump’s.”

Whaaat? Trump isn’t even one hair on a zit on the ass of Obama when it comes to corruption. Has Trump been reinforcing the enemy with Gitmo releases? Has he been financing terror via Iran? Has he freed 5 Taliban commanders in exchange for a defector to the enemy? Has he armed Mexican drug gangs? Has he sued states for enforcing their laws? Has he destroy entire countries like Libya destroying millions of lives and creating a massive refugee crisis? Has he imported MS-13 gang members into the USA by using a scam called “unaccompanied minors”? Has he harassed his opponents by using the IRS?


5 posted on 01/23/2020 3:45:03 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free equal justice under the law will never exist in the USA)
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I caught that too. I guess Rove thinks sending pallets of cash in the dead of night to the world’s biggest terrorist regime is the same as asking Ukraine to get a handle on their corruption.


6 posted on 01/23/2020 3:54:51 AM PST by jospehm20
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“Would Democrats Impeach Obama? His dealings with foreign officials and Congress look as suspect as Trump’s”

What’s your point here?

First, Obama’s dealings are not “as suspect as Trump’s”. They are a lot more suspect.

Second, nobody who is working to remove the President believes that he has done anything wrong.


7 posted on 01/23/2020 4:02:27 AM PST by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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Answer: No.

Never in a million years; he's theirs. Never mind using the IRS against his enemies (Impeachment Article II or so for Nixon), or starting foreign wars without congressional approval (Libya), etc., etc.

They didn't impeach LBJ or JFK or even Carter for incompetence or convict and remove Clinton for his High Crimes and Misdemeanors.

The Democrats are treasonous scum.

8 posted on 01/23/2020 4:09:58 AM PST by Chainmail (Remember that half the people you meet are below average intelligence)
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Karl is being overly kind in the comparison. Obama was a seditious traitor to the United States and he made a pact with Hillary to allow her to use the State Department as her personal banking laundromat and to shake down anyone not paying up to the Clinton Foundation as long as she gave him no trouble in public.

And I cannot believe we have a body politic in a twist because a president wants to use restraint in handing out taxpayer dollars like a billion dollar Pet Dispenser? He should scrutinize every penny. If something smells, don't fund the stench.

But then again that's not the real reason. Trump is shutting off the water flow to the laundromat. Dirty politicians have friends and relatives expecting that cleaned, laundered money.

9 posted on 01/23/2020 4:15:04 AM PST by blackdog (Making wine cave appearances upon request.)
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Would Democrats Impeach Obama?

No. Impeachment is purely political and has been for all three of the times it's been done. Democrats would not vote to impeach and remove Obama regardless of what he did. Republicans will not vote to impeach and remove Trump regardless of what he did either.

10 posted on 01/23/2020 4:15:55 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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“look as suspect as Trump’s”

huh? what a typical back-hander from Turd Blossom.


11 posted on 01/23/2020 4:20:20 AM PST by MAGAthon
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They should all be behind bars but their are GOP elements that are in bed with them that’s why


12 posted on 01/23/2020 4:22:14 AM PST by ronnie raygun (nick dip .com)
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“What if Hillary had won in 2016?”

Well she didn’t:

https://mobile.twitter.com/j_trumpin/status/1219823789699190785?s=12


13 posted on 01/23/2020 4:25:18 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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".. as suspect?" What would have happened to Trump had he surreptitiously shipped $150 billion to our enemies?

Stupid question. Stupid article. Stupid people. Stupid country.

14 posted on 01/23/2020 4:25:58 AM PST by LouAvul
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Obama had a “pen and a phone”. Abuse of power ??


15 posted on 01/23/2020 4:29:36 AM PST by griswold3 (Democratic Socialism is Slavery by Mob Rule)
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“as” ? concession word..
obama has Trump beat hands down when it comes to shady dealings.


16 posted on 01/23/2020 4:32:02 AM PST by Leep (Everyday is Trump Day!)
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Except-Trump’s ‘dealings’ aren’t suspect


17 posted on 01/23/2020 4:32:10 AM PST by SMARTY ("Nobility is defined by the demands it makes on us - by obligations, not by rights".)
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“as suspect”

FUKR


18 posted on 01/23/2020 4:33:41 AM PST by Eddie01
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Would Democrats Impeach Obama?

What kind of stupid question is that?

It implies a kind of moral equivalence between the Dems and Reps...and the Democrats have NO MORALS.

They are not out to get Trump because he has done something wrong. They are out to get Trump PERIOD.

19 posted on 01/23/2020 5:09:49 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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Any move to impeach 0 or a theoretical H would have been met by cries and howls of racism or sexism. Violence would have been threatened as well. The dims impeaching their own belongs in a book of fairy tales.


20 posted on 01/23/2020 5:25:51 AM PST by xp38
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