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Ukrainian plane carrying 180 crashes in Iran
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Posted on 01/07/2020 7:35:06 PM PST by janetjanet998

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161 posted on 01/07/2020 10:09:28 PM PST by SunkenCiv ( Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: madison10

I dunno. Money undoubtably. People paid for their tickets. They expect to get on their plane and be where they want to go in this case Kiev. I am sure travellers evacuating Tehran want to GTFO just as much as people getting out of LA, Atlanta, or LaGuardia. Who thinks they’re gonna get shot down?


162 posted on 01/07/2020 10:22:28 PM PST by Smogger
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To: House Atreides

The Iranian Military is basically incompetent. If they were trying to shoot down a specific plane, I don’t think they could have done it. This has the earmarks of a trigger happy idiot.

There was a 1/2 hour between the doomed flight and The plane before (Qatar 777) which turned east before it overflew the Parand power station (and therefore didn’t overfly the military base boundary). The UIA 737 was the first plane to overfly the military base north of Parand in an hour. Maybe there was a shift change at the SAM battery and the new guy didn’t get the memo.


163 posted on 01/07/2020 10:25:26 PM PST by UNGN (I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
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To: janetjanet998

Check the fuel loaded, and the maintenance performed in Tehran. Also the “black boxes” for aircraft performance and crew conversation during flight problems.

But all this is under Iranian control and not likely to be done honestly. Maybe Iran is getting their vengeance on a weak pro-USA nation.


164 posted on 01/07/2020 10:42:50 PM PST by Rainier1789 (My Constitution has a 2nd and 10th Amendment)
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To: BenLurkin

in 1988, yes.


165 posted on 01/07/2020 10:55:19 PM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: janetjanet998

“Something catastrophic on plane.” You mean like a missile?

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166 posted on 01/07/2020 11:01:10 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV)
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To: IndispensableDestiny

It was a 737-800. Not a 737 Max or a 737 Max 8


167 posted on 01/07/2020 11:05:16 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (MAGA!!!)
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To: kiryandil

Reminiscent of the Concorde disaster.


168 posted on 01/07/2020 11:11:27 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: dragnet2

I thought the same thing!


169 posted on 01/07/2020 11:20:02 PM PST by princess leah (Princess Leah)
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To: IndispensableDestiny

That is not true. It was a regular 737 and only 3 years old. It’s an aircraft with an excellent safety record.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/airline-news/2020/01/08/no-boeing-737-crashed-iran-not-737-max/2840651001/


170 posted on 01/08/2020 1:30:29 AM PST by Krosan
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To: lodi90

This is the list of passengers by citizenship

• Canadian citizens -73
• Iranian citizens - 71
• Ukrainian citizens- 11
• Swedish citizens - 8
• Afghanistan citizens - 6
• German citizens - 4
• British citizens - 3

https://twitter.com/Aviation_NewsTW/status/1214808803528458242


171 posted on 01/08/2020 1:35:16 AM PST by Krosan
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To: janetjanet998

I would find out who is on the Manifest of that plane. There are no coincidences. I am suspecting that there were some important players that the CIA and Brennan and Jared could not let live. Iran was used to take them out and to puff up their chest much like the 15 missiles missed everything. This was a opportunity that could not pass up. It made Iran look tough and horrible but that’s about it. Again I think probably there were some important Witnesses on that plane.


172 posted on 01/08/2020 1:39:15 AM PST by CincyRichieRich (Vote for President Trump in 2020 or end up equally miserable, no rights, and eating zoo animals)
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To: CincyRichieRich

I am with you in on this coincidence NOT why in the HELL was that plane in Iranian air space with missles flying everywhere AND Ukrainian plane????


173 posted on 01/08/2020 2:03:39 AM PST by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Roccus
Ouch.
174 posted on 01/08/2020 2:20:24 AM PST by a little elbow grease (... to err is human, to admit it divine ...)
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To: Steven Tyler
I am hoping Soros was on the plane

lol .......... could we be so lucky.

175 posted on 01/08/2020 2:25:56 AM PST by a little elbow grease (... to err is human, to admit it divine ...)
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To: All

Apparently the president of Ukraine was on a state visit to Oman when this happened. He is cutting that short to return to Kiev. I’ve read speculation elsewhere that the plane could have collided with a surveillance drone or may have been in the line of fire when Iranians tried to shoot down a higher flying surveillance aircraft or a drone. There are important military bases in the general area of the crash site.

Personally I doubt that this was anything to do with eliminating witnesses in any potential U.S. legal cases. The passenger list will probably turn out to be mostly unfortunate regular civilians visiting relatives in Iran over the holidays (which may explain the large number of Canadians on board, there is an Iranian community in Canada, mostly people who left forty years ago, and the connection would be that Ukrainian Airlines flies to both Tehran and Canada from Kiev. Or possibly another airline for the longer flight. RIP.


176 posted on 01/08/2020 2:26:31 AM PST by Peter ODonnell (Nobody reads this anyway so here's my password: *************)
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To: UNGN
If you google map the area, there appears to be a military complex just over the hill from Parand/Parand power station.

There are obvious bunkers less than 2 miles north of the last transmission.

Itchy trigger finger. The guy probably said “dead on!” in farsi before he realised he f-ed up.

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hmmmm ....

177 posted on 01/08/2020 2:29:09 AM PST by a little elbow grease (... to err is human, to admit it divine ...)
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To: Skywarner

“This was a shoot down.”

^^^ This ^^^

Mullahs reportedly now refusing to turn over the black box of the airliner.


178 posted on 01/08/2020 2:53:51 AM PST by romanesq (8Chan and its child porn, violence and murders are kaput. So is the QAnon grift with it.)
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To: madison10
"Who would be flying out of there now? Wouldn’t almost everyone know better?"

Just heard on the news that the passengers were iranians and Canadians.

weird selection if true.

179 posted on 01/08/2020 3:35:28 AM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Krosan

Canadians. They talk a good rainbow game, but they sure do seem to love vacationing in oppressive regimes. Probably so they can commiserate and tell them the “USA is worse”.


180 posted on 01/08/2020 4:04:38 AM PST by UNGN (I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
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