Posted on 12/31/2019 2:06:22 AM PST by PghBaldy
US embassy staff and the US ambassador in Baghdad have been evacuated, according to two unnamed Iraqi Foreign Ministry officials cited by Reuters, as hundreds of Iraqi protesters swam the embassy compound.
Iraqi supporters of a powerful Iranian-backed militia were attacking the outside of the fortified zone that surrounds the US embassy compound in Baghdad, protesting against American air strikes that killed 25 fighters from the group, news agencies reported.
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc. had all the lessons of Vietnam right in front of them. LBJ also had tried to pacify a far-away Asian country, and failed.
Bush ignored those lessons, and repeated LBJs mistakes in both Afghanistan and in Iraq. Restrictive rules of engagement were put in place. Winning hearts-and-minds became the main priority, etc. Were Bush and company stupid? Or is it better explained by arrogance?
I remember reading about a Iraq strategy meeting chaired by Rumsfeld. It was held shortly before the invasion. An Air Force general suggested that plans be drawn up to counter any possible insurgency.
Rumsfeld said that the next person who mentioned a possible insurgency would be fired.
2. Revoke his passport and refuse to allow him back into the U.S. until he fixes the problem.
It seems like that @sshole is the only one still willing to come out and publicly support the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003. Screw him. Let him fix the mess he wanted so badly.
Thank you!
This is not the death of communism or Islamism.
In the UK, Corbyn just made his New Year’s greeting that Labor will be the “resistance” to Boris Johnson’s majority government.
The communists use the same words and programs globally....”resistance” “Green New Deal” “Social Justice”....these are all coordinated on a global scale that freedom-loving conservatives cannot match.
Additionally, the communists are allied with the islamists...especially Iran.
Average Freeper in 2019: Slaughter the Iraqi Shiites!
I give up.
Im so happy the Iraqis appreciate what we did freeing them from the rule of Saddam Hussein.
Especially since all or most of the “protestors” are Shia (the despised sect under Sunni Saddam Hussein, now loyal to Iran).
Who cares what these people do?
Bring our people home to protect our own borders and let the nutcases have their eternal wars and hate without us...
> “The people of Iran will never trust the west.”
Wow, you’re quite the flamethrower aren’t you?
> “We have broken too many promises to support them and we have failed to reinforce their desire for freedom from Islamic control.”
Who’s this ‘we’?
Im so happy the Iraqis appreciate what we did freeing them from the rule of Saddam Hussein.
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Iran is behind this.
The needs of the few are to oppress the many.
Promoting democracy in Iraq means it will have an Iranian-backed Shiite government. If this is a problem for the U.S., then perhaps that retarded baboon who was in the White House back in 2003 should be arrested and tried for sedition.
Previous administrations....both Democrat and Republican...have made promises to the Iranian people of support that never arrives.
Maybe you do not understand the history of US foreign policy, promising groups that rise up against their oppressive governments all sorts of US assistance, and then leaving them high and dry in their moment of need.
Iran of 1979 is not Iran of 2020. Those American educated students are now old people.
Let’s thank our Lucky Stars that Hillary is not POTUS.
Ditto 100%. That was a Bush deal and nothing more. Saddam Hussian knew how to control the region and he did it.
Agree Iran is behind this. If memory serves me correct, Russia, China and Iran are starting to get close. So could be Russia and China behind the scenes of this.
Evac....then about 3 MOABs...
Iraq wasn’t all that stable even under Saddam. Why else did he need to gas the Kurds, flood the Marsh Arabs, etc.?
These are Iranian backed militias, not your ordinary Iraqis. Ordinary Iraqis have been protesting against the gov’t for allowing Iranian interference. They want Iran out of their country.
Iraqs instability was a function of its artificial borders. The country was rested out of the remnants of the Ottoman Empire after World War I, and it was cobbled together with different sects and cultures that never would have been part of a unified country if left on their own.
Establishing democracy in a place like that is a recipe for disaster.
Whats an ordinary Iraqi? Are they the same mythical people who were supposed to welcome U.S. troops as liberators in 2003?
> “But don’t mistake this as the death of progressivism”
Gee, who said anything about ‘death’?
Did you misread? Did you decide to blur “final throes” into a hysterical end?
Their causes are dying. They meaning global elite families and their lawless mafia-like networks are not dead but their PR causes are dying and their brands are falling out of favor.
The UK elections were just a battle? No. It was a decisive defeat of the left in Britain, a turning point coming on the heels of a three year struggle. To say differently would insult the intelligence of the British people. They don’t like people that insult them. They won a decisive historical victory and are turning toward cleanup operations.
Leftist brands are dying everywhere. The great awakening is exposing the fraud. The propaganda networks are in decline. The slush funds are being shutdown.
The dying left is shrieking, getting noisier, more out of control.
After what POTUS just did to some of their bad actors, they don’t know what to do that can make a difference. They are losing on all fronts. They are indeed dying.
Brexit is more than Britain. It’s a worldwide repudiation of the left and their brands. It’s not a single event. It’s a symbol of a large superset of events
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