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Germany just guaranteed unemployed citizens around $330 per month indefinitely. The policy looks a lot like basic income
businessinsider.com ^ | December 26, 2019 | Aria Bendix

Posted on 12/27/2019 12:10:27 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper

... The new ruling prevents the government from slashing more than 30% of an unemployed person's benefits under the program. That guarantees unemployed residents at least 300 euros ($333) per month. Even then, the punishment can be waived if it threatens to cause extreme hardship. The three-month suspension can also be shortened if an individual works with their government-appointed adviser to seek employment or enroll in a training program.

Housing and healthcare assistance will continue to be provided under the new policy.

The decision followed a complaint from a resident who turned down a warehouse job because he wanted to work in sales. He claims he lost around 235 euros ($260) per month as a result — almost half of the average monthly payment.

The change takes Germany a significant step closer to offering a basic income, especially since the payments continue indefinitely — unlike unemployment benefits in the US.

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To: Rockingham

One way to get the voters on your side


21 posted on 12/27/2019 1:58:59 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: Migraine

For a family of four it would be just under a thousand on top of already free housing and healthcare.
That’s plenty of pizza to stay fat and still enough for booze and drugs.


22 posted on 12/27/2019 2:03:47 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: ronnie raygun

And Germany’s now large population of restive, terrorism prone Muslim migrants. Most of them are utterly without useful job skills or desire to work and regard benefits from the German state as due them as a form of tax on infidels.


23 posted on 12/27/2019 2:13:02 AM PST by Rockingham
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To: NorseViking
For a family of four it would be just under a thousand on top of already free housing and healthcare. That’s plenty of pizza to stay fat and still enough for booze and drugs.

Whew! Thank you!

24 posted on 12/27/2019 2:13:43 AM PST by Veggie Todd (Voltaire said, "Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool".)
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To: Rockingham

Yes, for Muslim families with multiple children shared between them this law is like hitting a jackpot. They may collect thousands every month off it.


25 posted on 12/27/2019 2:19:15 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: PrairieLady2

$330? Hell I make twice that in a week.


26 posted on 12/27/2019 2:24:16 AM PST by jmacusa ("If wisdom is not the Lord, what is wisdom?)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

And yet Frau Merkel won’t ask her government to may its fair share (2%!?) Defense spending per NATO agreement.


27 posted on 12/27/2019 2:24:50 AM PST by ReleaseTheHounds ("The problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: Rockingham

So what happens when no one decides to work anymore?


28 posted on 12/27/2019 2:25:48 AM PST by jmacusa ("If wisdom is not the Lord, what is wisdom?)
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To: NorseViking

Yup. Muslims see it as a way to subvert and demographically transform Germany into a Muslim nation, while Germany’s feckless politicians and bureaucrats see it as a way to buy peace. Supposedly, a strategic analysis for Poland’s general staff projects that Germany will fall into civil disorder within ten to twenty years, with Poland needing to intervene to save Germany’s non-Muslim population from destruction and to prevent the seizure of German Army weapons depots by marauding Muslim gangs and militias.


29 posted on 12/27/2019 2:36:34 AM PST by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham

That is given something is left out of Poland by that time. Poland relies heavily on Germany to balance its own welfare state and it is getting depopulated because its people are moving to Germany as well.


30 posted on 12/27/2019 2:41:37 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Notice this doesn't say Citizens. Therefore it could be going to refugees and foreignness that are NOT CITIZENS??

I wouldn't be surprised. It would be another leak in an already very leaky budget.

31 posted on 12/27/2019 2:55:14 AM PST by CptnObvious (Question her now.)
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To: NorseViking

Most of Poland’s supposed emigration is a matter of Poles temporarily residing abroad for education or for lucrative skilled trade work in other parts of the EU. Assuming that current projections are accurate, Poland will continue to have a substantial enough population to defend itself and a cohesive enough national identity to believe that doing so is worthwhile. The same cannot be said with confidence as to Germany, France, Italy or much of the rest of Europe.


32 posted on 12/27/2019 3:06:08 AM PST by Rockingham
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To: NorseViking

The Finland ‘test’ went to a rather odd prospective by the government. They needed proof that the test subjects (I think this was in the 1,000 to 2,000 range) would use the capital to better themselves, or start small commercial businesses.

In the end, they found a couple of guys who did actually start a business (of which a fair percentage just plain failed), and the rest basically spent the money on trips and gifts for themselves.

In essence, the bulk of people were just seeing the ‘gift’ money as extra welfare money on top of what they were getting already. So the experiment was considered a failure.

Maybe if they’d packaged this as training package for job improvements, or had small business ‘help’ to launch a successful entrepreneur situation....it would have made better sense in the end.


33 posted on 12/27/2019 3:31:17 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: jmacusa

Officially, 5.9 million Germans and visa-holders are on Hartz IV, and get ‘assistance’. About one-third of them are visa-holders, so it’s in the neighborhood of 3 million who are what you’d consider welfare cases.

What is generally said of this group....the bulk are people who marginally finished up schooling at age 15, failed their apprentice training test, and never got certified. They were lucky to get into a regular job...requiring no certifications. Somewhere in their mid-20s to mid-30s....about half of these people end up getting fired, and the German employment system is unable to handle placement for these people.

So they just start showing up monthly, showing they sent out resumes, and they rubber-stamp the check. After five years of this, you can forget about the guy/gal ever getting a job. Sometimes, you can add drug and alcohol abuse into the mix, along with marginal competence. Rather than going back to resolve this job training issue and coach them back into productive lives....the system is built to just hand them a check and forget about them as employable.

Stupid to admit this, but you can figure about seventy-percent of the 3-million welfare Germans are in this category.

As for the foreigners holding the visa, more or less the same story. Either they lack job-training or certifications. The ones who ask for the job-training situations....usually end up with productive jobs and opportunities. I (I live in Germany) was in a language class with a Ghana guy, who’d shown the willing nature for training, and the German boss of a grocery was set to hire the guy as a weekend assistant manager once he finished integration and language classes.


34 posted on 12/27/2019 3:44:11 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: NorseViking

45 years of Communism after half a dozen years of Nazi domination takes a while to recover from.

If you could send home a Muslim refugee for every Pole that shows up, you might have something.


35 posted on 12/27/2019 3:45:58 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I’m moving to Bavaria, collecting the money and squatting in a house somewhere...

Is Kempten nice?


36 posted on 12/27/2019 3:50:55 AM PST by EEGator
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To: PrairieLady2

That’s Step 2. Once they’ve established people are entitled to free money, then it will be argued that a family just can’t survive on 300 euros a month! They deserve more!


37 posted on 12/27/2019 3:51:51 AM PST by FrdmLvr (They never thought she would lose.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I did not know that.

Thanks.


38 posted on 12/27/2019 3:59:53 AM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Well what do you think of this?

For? Against? Indifferent?

You’re there so your opinion obviously means more.

hope you’re well BTW :)


39 posted on 12/27/2019 4:00:42 AM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Remember what Limbaugh used to say about liberals helping the poor? “Give them just enough to keep them miserable.”


40 posted on 12/27/2019 4:07:02 AM PST by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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