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1 posted on 12/24/2019 7:56:29 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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0. the senate could take judicial notice of the articles passed, and entertain and pass an immediate pre-trial motion to dismiss by the president’s counsel.

0.1 the senate declare the house a vexatious and irresponsible litigant, and ignore further articles of impeachment for the duration of the current house session.


2 posted on 12/24/2019 8:04:42 PM PST by SteveH (intentionally blank)
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This would be immediately attacked by the MSM-Democrats and the entire Deep State apparatchik as "illegitimate" and "a parliamentary maneuver" and a "Republican stunt" and "the fix is in," etc., etc.

However, the MSM-Democrats are going to make those accusations against any outcome that doesn't result in their fantasy Orange Man Family Frog Walk from happening, so maybe they should go for it.

3 posted on 12/24/2019 8:07:58 PM PST by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrats' John Dean])
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lots of useless speculation ... both Graham and McConnell have REPEATEDLY said if/when there’s a trial they want it conducted with the same rules as the Clinton impeachment trial ...


5 posted on 12/24/2019 8:26:29 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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Best for 51 votes to end this by dismissal. Not confident of getting 67 not to convict.


6 posted on 12/24/2019 8:27:26 PM PST by Chauncey Gardiner
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2. The Senate could begin a trial and, thereafter, could end it whenever the Senate majority deems it has heard enough and calls for a vote. Such a vote would be called when the Senate majority is confident that a supermajority of 67 senators — two-thirds of the Senate — would not vote to convict;

Why a two thirds majority? They only need one third plus one to ensure no conviction.

7 posted on 12/24/2019 8:27:55 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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The Senate should shut impeachment down with a one or two day hearing.
Then later on open up a separate inquiry into Ukraine and shady Burisma money laundering.


13 posted on 12/24/2019 8:47:49 PM PST by tflabo (Prince of Peace, Lion of Righteousness)
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I like option #1. But somewhere along the way we need to get serious about money laundering our financial aid and how dollars come back to the politicos and others. Clearly illegal.


14 posted on 12/24/2019 9:02:08 PM PST by upchuck (Democrats say the President is out of control. They mean the President is out of THEIR control.)
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Nothing in the Constitution appears to require the Senate honor the House’s impeachment articles in any way, delivered or not. It can choose to conduct a trial... if it wishes. But there’s no language in there that says it has to.


15 posted on 12/24/2019 9:03:08 PM PST by thoughtomator (... this has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.)
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I and millions of Americans are totally turned off by the squawking of the Democrat Party chickens led by the ranting and ravings of insane Democrats, Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff & Jerrold Nadler, regarding the impeachment of POTUS, Donald J. Trump. The Democrat “Fake News Media” has destroyed what little credibility it has ever had...now...it has no credibility whatsoever!!!

The ranting and raving of the same information hour after hour, day after day has become both annoying and exceedingly boring to the overwhelming, masses of the American people!!! It has got to end and end right now!!! The Democrat Party had their chance and opportunity led by Pelosi, Schiff & Nadler and they failed miserably & weakly at best. We are sick of it all...Stop it “MEDIA”....Case closed!!!


16 posted on 12/24/2019 9:11:07 PM PST by JLAGRAYFOX (Defeat both the Republican (e) & Democrat (e) political parties....Forev er!!!)
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End it, this sham of an impeachment, and end it now. This POTUS is innocent of all claims for impeachment...the impeachment of a hotdog will do. President Trumps is not guilty of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors”... Pelosi and gang have spent over three years looking for a crime with which to overthrow this President, duly elected by the American people. End this nonsense Senator McConnell and END it NOW!


17 posted on 12/24/2019 9:22:31 PM PST by yoe
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Before any trial begins, there should be a vetting of the jury.
1. Senators running for President shouldn’t be allowed to vote - conflict of interest.
2. Likewise, Senators who are political friends or enemies can’t vote. Prejudged the case

That should eliminate the whole Senate. Ergo, no trial.


19 posted on 12/24/2019 9:39:52 PM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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The Senate should not dignify the kangaroo court put on by the Speaker and her puppet acolytes. Both Schiff and Nadler ran unconstitutional and corrupt hearings. Senator McConnell should not dignify the worthless articles; End this sham and End it Now.


21 posted on 12/24/2019 9:50:46 PM PST by yoe
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EVERYTHING other than the actual vote is pointless virtue signalling. Vote and then let’s get back to the work of wrecking our country!


22 posted on 12/24/2019 10:32:07 PM PST by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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L8r


23 posted on 12/24/2019 11:16:25 PM PST by preacher ( Journalism no longer reports news, they use news to shape our society.)
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# 4 “This would cause a circus-like atmosphere”

So, this is what Nancy and Co. would choose..if they had a choice?


31 posted on 12/25/2019 4:13:40 AM PST by Leep (Many shall be deceived ( by liberals ))
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The Senate won’t get 51 votes to dismiss.
The snakes Romney, Murkowski, at least 1 Senator from Maine will vote Nay.

Regardless the outcome of the Senate vote, the ‘rats are already drumming up more articles.


32 posted on 12/25/2019 4:57:28 AM PST by Vinnie
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OK

Tell schmuckie he'll get everything he wants

Let nazi pee lousy know she'll get everything she wants

Accept the articles of impeachment ....


and sit on them until both are voted out of office .... or just .... forever.

Tell them you're waiting until you can feel assured the Republicans will give you a fair trial and right now .... you're not so sure.

Go home, play golf, retire.

35 posted on 12/25/2019 9:29:35 AM PST by knarf (est line of the year !)
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From the article:
Democrats and Republicans will put their own political spin on the outcome...in my opinion...there is no need for a trial...a trial is less important.

With the risk inherent in any debate with a professional “strategic communicator” such as the author of this article, I will disagree on the need for a trial.

A trial will pay the highest respects of our government to the Constitution. It is the Constitution that is under attack, if not seriously threatened. Politically and even legally, the dems grabbed the headlines with a losing agenda; now they are caught under the Senate Leader’s bright light as he and the R's defend the Constitution..

Under the Clinton rules the Dem’s case will rise and fall with the evidence and witnesses they believed supported the filing of impeachment charges. Each of those witnesses in turn would be thoroughly cross-examined by expert White House litigators.

The Senate could then vote on acquittal. The sole issue is whether the impeachment charges as presented are valid. There would be no need to allow the dems to conduct fishing expeditions with additional witnesses or even to allow the Senate to independently call witnesses.

Significantly, the voters will have a clearer view of a substantial amount of the duplicity and underhandedness that motivated the dem effort.

It is feeling like a Merry Christmas!

36 posted on 12/25/2019 9:42:29 AM PST by frog in a pot ( "It's not enough to hold winning cards, ya gotta' know how to bet 'em.")
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