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'He just got impeached. He'll be impeached FOREVER.' Nancy Pelosi taunts Donald Trump..
Daily Mail UK ^ | December 20, 2019 | Emily Goodin

Posted on 12/20/2019 9:10:11 AM PST by COUNTrecount

'He just got impeached. He'll be impeached FOREVER.' Nancy Pelosi taunts Donald Trump as crisis over his Senate trial lurches into a third day

Nancy Pelosi taunted Donald Trump, saying he will be 'impeached forever'

'He just got impeached. He'll be impeached forever. No matter what the Senate does,' she told the Associated Press in an interview

Trump's lawyers are looking into a legal argument he is not impeached because Pelosi has not formally transmitted articles of impeachment to the Senate

Trump has claimed Pelosi is afraid to send the impeachment articles to the Senate because of witnesses Republicans may call

Oh pfft,' Pelosi told Politico. 'Fear is never a word used with me'

Pelosi: 'I'm never afraid and I'm rarely surprised'

Lawmakers leave for their holiday recess on Friday with no clear way out of the logjam over how to set parameters for Trump's Senate trial

Mitch McConnell and Chuck Schumer said they are at an impasse

Pelosi downplayed the latest crisis on Capitol Hill where a bicameral brawl broke out of the president's impeachment trial in the Senate after the speaker did not formally transmit the articles of impeachment to the Senate.

Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell and Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer said Thursday they are at an impasse over the procedures for Trump's trial while the president demanded immediate action and claimed Pelosi hasn't sent the articles because she fears Republicans will call witnesses who will damage the Democrats' case.

'Oh pfft,' Pelosi told Politico when asked if she was 'too afraid' to send the articles.

'Fear is never a word used with me. You should know right away,' she said. 'I'm never afraid and I'm rarely surprised.'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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To: tbw2

then this wrongly states clinton was acquitted

https://history.house.gov/Institution/Impeachment/Impeachment-List/


81 posted on 12/20/2019 10:30:39 AM PST by b4me (God Bless the USA)
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To: tbw2; b4me
The Boy President was acquitted.



82 posted on 12/20/2019 10:38:14 AM PST by Bratch (IF YOU HAVE SELFISH IGNORANT CITIZENS, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE SELFISH IGNORANT LEADERS-George Carlin)
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To: COUNTrecount
I've lived long enough to realize "what goes around comes around"... or in simple terms, "you get what you give."

My point: This is all, eventually, gonna BLOW UP in her face. You can see it coming.

83 posted on 12/20/2019 10:39:39 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: COUNTrecount
Nanzi is also letting us know that there will be 92,394 Impeachments Per Second.
84 posted on 12/20/2019 10:41:48 AM PST by Lazamataz (We can be called a racist and we'll just smile. Because we don't care.)
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To: ealgeone

Republicans have lives outside of politics.


85 posted on 12/20/2019 10:45:44 AM PST by fortheDeclaration
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To: olesigh

They voted to impeach, but impeachment doesn’t occur until the Senate holds a trial.


86 posted on 12/20/2019 10:46:40 AM PST by fortheDeclaration
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

A GOP Congress can vote to nullify it.


87 posted on 12/20/2019 10:47:29 AM PST by fortheDeclaration
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To: Truth29; All

Floor speech of Senator Mitch McConnell (R-KY) [December 19, 2019]:

Last night, House Democrats finally did what they had decided to do a long time ago - they voted to impeach President Trump.

Over the last 12 weeks, House Democrats have conducted the most rushed, least thorough and most unfair impeachment inquiry in modern history.

Now their slapdash process has concluded in the first purely partisan presidential impeachment since the wake of the Civil War. The opposition to impeachment was bipartisan. Only one part of one faction wanted this outcome. The House’s conduct risks deeply damaging the institutions of American government.

This particular House of Representatives has let its partisan rage at this particular president create a toxic new precedent that will echo well into the future. That’s what I want to discuss right now, the historic degree to which House Democrats have failed to do their duty and what it will mean for the Senate to do ours.

So let’s start at the beginning. Let’s start with the fact that Washington Democrats made up their minds to impeach President Trump since before he was even inaugurated. Here’s a reporter in April of 2016 — April of 2016. Donald Trump isn’t even the Republican nominee yet, but impeachment is already on the lips of pundits, newspaper editorials, constitutional scholars and even a few members of Congress — April 2016. On Inauguration Day 2017, the headline in The Washington Post: “The Campaign to Impeach President Trump Has Begun.” That was day one.

In April 2017, three months into the presidency, a senior House Democrat said, “I’m going to fight every day until he’s impeached.” That was three months into the administration.

In December 2017, two years ago, Congressman Jerry Nadler was openly campaign — campaigning to be the ranking member on the House Judiciary Committee specifically — specifically because he was an expert on impeachment. That’s the Nadler’s campaign to be the top Democrat on Judiciary.

This week wasn’t even the first time House Democrats have introduced articles of impeachment. It was actually the seventh time. They started less than six months after the president was sworn in. They tried to impeach President Trump for being impolite to the press, for being mean to professional athletes, for changing President Obama’s policy on transgender people in the military. All of these things were high crimes and misdemeanors, according to Democrats.

Now, this wasn’t just a few people. Scores, scores of Democrats voted to move forward with impeachment on three of those prior occasions. So let’s be clear. The House’s vote yesterday was not some neutral judgment that Democrats came to with great reluctance. It was the predetermined end of a partisan crusade that began before President Trump was even nominated, let alone sworn in.

For the very first time in modern history, we’ve seen a political faction in Congress promise from the moment — the moment the presidential election ended that they would find some way to overturn it.

A few months ago Democrats’ three-year-long impeachment in search of articles found its way to the subject of Ukraine.

House Democrats embarked on the most rushed, least thorough and most unfair impeachment inquiry in modern history.

Chairman Schiff’s inquiry was poisoned by partisanship from the outset. Its procedures and parameters were unfair in unprecedented ways. Democrats tried to make Chairman Schiff into a de facto special prosecutor, notwithstanding the fact that he is a partisan member of Congress who had already engaged in strange and biased behavior.

He scrapped the precedent to cut the Republican minority out of the process. He denied President Trump the same sorts of procedural rights that Houses of both parties had provided to past presidents of both parties. President Trump’s counsel could not participate in Chairman Schiff’s hearings, present evidence or cross-examine witnesses.

The House Judiciary Committee’s crack at this was even more ahistorical. It was like the speaker called up Chairman Nadler and ordered one impeachment, rush delivery please.

The committee found no facts on its own, did nothing to verify the Schiff report. Their only witnesses were liberal law professors and congressional staffers.

Mr. President, there’s a reason the impeachment inquiry that led to President Nixon’s resignation required about 14 months of hearings — 14 months in addition to a special prosecutor’s investigation.

With President Clinton, the independent counsel’s inquiry had been under way literally for years before the House Judiciary Committee actually dug in. Mountains of evidence, mountains. Mountains of testimony from firsthand fact witnesses, serious legal battles to get what was necessary.

This time around? House Democrats skipped all of that. It’s been just 12 weeks, 12 weeks. More than a year of hearings for Nixon, multiple years of investigation for Clinton. And they’ve impeached President Trump in 12 weeks, 12 weeks.

So let’s talk about what the House actually produced in those 12 weeks. House Democrats’ rushed and rigged inquiry yielded two articles — two — of impeachment. They’re fundamentally unlike any articles that any prior House of Representatives has ever passed.

The first article concerns the core events, which House Democrats claim are impeachable: the timing of aid to Ukraine. But it does not even purport to allege any actual crime. Instead, they deploy the vague phrase, “abuse of power” — abuse of power — to impugn the president’s action in a general indeterminate way.

Speaker Pelosi’s House just gave into a temptation that every other House in history has managed to resist. I (ph) say that again. Speaker Pelosi’s House just gave into a temptation that every other House in our history has managed to resist. They impeach a president whom they do not even allege has committed an actual crime known to our laws. They’ve impeached simply because they disagree with a presidential act, and question the motive behind it.

So let’s look at history. Andrew Johnson’s impeachment involved around a clear violation of a criminal statute, albeit an unconstitutional statute. Nixon had obstruction of justice, a felony under our laws. Clinton had perjury, also a felony.

Now, the Constitution does not say the House can impeach only those presidents who violate a law, but history matters, history matters and precedent matters. And there were important reasons why every previous House of Representatives in American history restrained itself — restrained itself from crossing this Rubicon.

The framers of our Constitution very specifically discussed this issue: Whether the House should be able to impeach presidents just for, quote, “maladministration” — just for maladministration; in other words, because the House simply thought the president had bad judgment or is doing a bad job. They talked about all this when they wrote the Constitution. The written records of our founders’ debates show they specifically rejected this. They realized it would create a total dysfunction to set the bar for impeachment that low, that low. James Madison himself explained that allowing impeachment on that basis would mean the president serves at the pleasure of the Congress instead of the pleasure of the American people. It would make the president a creature — a — a creature — a creature of — of Congress, not the head of a separate and equal branch.

So there were powerful reasons, Mr. President, why Congress after Congress, for 230 years — 230 years — required presidential impeachments to revolve around clear, recognizable crimes, even though that was not a strict limitation; powerful reasons why for 230 years, no House — no House — opened a Pandora’s box of subjective political impeachments. That 230-year tradition died last night.

Now, Mr. President, House Democrats have tried to say they had to impeach President Trump on this historically-thin and subjective basis because the White House challenged their request for more witnesses. And that brings us to the second article of impeachment. The House titled this one “Obstruction of Congress”. What it really does is impeach the president for asserting presidential privilege.

The concept of executive privilege is another two-century- old constitutional tradition. Presidents starting with George Washington have invoked it. Federal courts have repeatedly affirmed it is a legitimate constitutional power. House Democrats requested extraordinary amounts of sensitive information from President Trump’s White House, exactly the kinds of things over which presidents of both parties have asserted privilege in the past.

Predictable and appropriately, President Trump did not simply roll over. He defended the constitutional authority of his office. No surprise there. It’s not a constitutional crisis for a House to want more information than a president wants to give up. That’s not a constitutional crisis; It’s a routine occurrence. The separation of powers is messy by design.

Here’s what should have happened — here’s what should have happened: Either the president and Congress negotiate a settlement, or the third branch of government, the judiciary, addresses the dispute between the other two. The Nixon impeachment featured disagreements over presidential privilege, so they went to court. The Clinton impeachment featured disagreements over presidential privilege, so they went to the courts. This takes time. It’s inconvenient. That’s actually the point. Due process is not meant to maximize the convenience of the prosecutor; It’s meant to protect the accused.

But this time was different. Remember, 14 months of hearings for Richard Nixon, years of investigation for Bill Clinton, 12 weeks for Donald Trump. Democrats didn’t have to rush this, but they chose to stick to their political timetable at the expense of pursuing more evidence through proper legal channels.

Nobody made Chairman Schiff do this. He chose to. The Tuesday before last, on live television, Adam Schiff explained to the entire country that, if House Democrats had let the justice system follow its normal course, they might not have gotten to impeach the president in time for the election. My goodness.

In Nixon, the courts were allowed to do their work. In Clinton, the courts were allowed to do their work. Only these House Democrats decided due process is too much work. They’d rather impeach with no proof.

Well, Mr. President, they tried to cover for their own partisan impatience by pretending that the routine occurrence of a president exerting constitutional privilege is itself — itself a second impeachable offense.

The following is something that Adam Schiff literally said in early October. Here’s what he said. “Any action that forces us to litigate or to have to consider litigation will be considered further evidence of obstruction of justice.” That’s Adam Schiff.

Here’s what the chairman effectively said and what one of his committee members restated just this week. “If the president asserts his constitutional rights, it’s that much more evident he’s guilty.” “If the president asserts his constitutional rights, it’s that much more evidence he’s guilty.” That kind of bullying is antithetical to American justice.

So those are House Democrats’ two articles of impeachment. That’s all their rushed and rigged inquiry could generate, an act that the House does not even allege is criminal and a nonsensical claim that exercising a legitimate presidential power is somehow an impeachable offense.

Mr. President, this is by far the thinnest basis for any House-passed presidential impeachment in American history — the thinnest and the weakest, and nothing else even comes close.

And, candidly, I don’t think I’m the only person around here who realizes that. Even before the House voted yesterday, Democrats had already started to signal uneasiness — uneasiness with its end product. Before the articles even passed, the Senate Democratic leader went on television to demand that this body redo House Democrats’ homework for them, that the Senate should supplement Chairman Schiff’s sloppy work so it is more persuasive than Chairman Schiff himself bothered to make it.

Of course, every such demand simply confirms that House Democrats have rushed forward with a case that is much too weak.

Back in June, Speaker Pelosi promised the House would build an ironclad case. Never mind that she was basically promising impeachment months — months before the Ukraine events, but that’s a separate matter. She promised an ironclad case.

And in March, Speaker Pelosi said this. “Impeachment is so divisive to the country that, unless there is something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan, I don’t think we should go down that path because it divides the country,” end quote.

By the speaker’s own standards, the standards she set, she has failed the country. The case is not compelling, not overwhelming, and as a result not bipartisan. The failure was made clear to everyone earlier this week when Senator Schumer began searching for ways the Senate could step out of our proper role and try to fix the House Democrats’ failures for them. And it was made even more clear last night, when Speaker Pelosi suggested that House Democrats may be too afraid, too afraid to even transmit their shoddy work product to the Senate.

Mr. President, it looks like the prosecutors are getting cold feet in front of the entire country, and second-guessing whether they even want to go to trial. They said impeachment was so urgent that it could not even wait for due process, but now they’re content to sit on their hands. This is really comical.

Democrats’ own actions concede that their allegations are unproven. The articles aren’t just unproven, they’re also constitutionally incoherent, incoherent.

Frankly, if either of these articles is blessed by the Senate, we could easily see the impeachment of every future president of either party. Let me say that again. If the Senate blesses this historically low bar, we will invite the impeachment of every future president.

The House Democrats’ allegations as presented are incompatible with our constitutional order. They are unlike anything that has ever been seen in 230 years of this republic. House Democrats want to create new rules for this president because they feel uniquely enraged. They feel uniquely enraged.

But long after the partisan fever of this moment has broken, the institutional damage will remain. I’ve described the threat to the presidency, this also imperils the Senate itself.

The House has created an unfair, unfinished product that looks nothing, nothing like any impeachment inquiry in American history. And if the speaker ever gets her House in order, that mess will be dumped over here on the Senate’s lap.

If the Senate blesses this slapdash impeachment, if we say that from now on this is enough, then we invite an endless parade of impeachable trials. Future Houses of either party will feel free to toss up a jump ball every time they feel angry, free to swamp the Senate with trial after trial, no matter how baseless the charges.

We’d be giving future Houses of either party unbelievable new power to paralyze the Senate at their whim. More thin arguments, more incomplete evidence, more partisan impeachments.

In fact, Mr. President, this same House of Representatives has already indicated that they themselves may not be finished impeaching. The House Judiciary Committee told a federal court this very week that it will continue its impeachment investigation even after voting on these articles. And multiple Democratic members have already called publicly for more.

If the Senate blesses this, if the nation accepts this, presidential impeachments may cease being a once-in-a-generation event and become a constant part — a constant part of the political background noise.

This extraordinary tool of last resort may become just another part of the arms race of polarization. Real statesmen would have recognized, no matter their view of this president, that trying to remove him on this thin and partisan basis could unsettle the foundations of our republic. Real statesmen would have recognized, no matter how much partisan animosity might be coursing through their veins, that cheapening the impeachment process was not the answer.

Historians will regard this as a great irony of our era, that so many who profess such concern for our norms and traditions themselves, proved willing to trample our constitutional order to get their way. It is long past time for Washington to get a little perspective.


88 posted on 12/20/2019 10:50:46 AM PST by COUNTrecount ("I've always won, and I'm going to continue to win. And that's the way it is." -- Donald Trump)
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To: semantic

The electorate is not going to be kind to the Democrats in the short term, but HISTORY will be VERY VERY VERY UNKIND in the long term..

They have ensured Trump a place in the history books, they want to focus on the fact they voted to impeach... let them, because his impeachment and subsequent landslide re-election will smack them in the face for as long as there is a documented history of this nation to study.

Andrew Johnson was impeached, largely over POLICY difference between Congress and Him.. and he is viewed historically as correct.. and he only survived being removed by a single vote in the Senate.

Democrats will be viewed throughout all time as WRONG on this. Trump will also be forever known as the first president to win re-election after being impeached... and his re-election will not be close.. but will be huge... leaving an even worse historic rebuke of this insanity.

Democrats think they have given Trump a scarlet letter, instead they have given him a badge of honor.


89 posted on 12/20/2019 11:30:37 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: olesigh

Hundreds of reports yesterday said he is the third president to be impeached.

Hundreds of reports say global warming and I do not believe them either.


90 posted on 12/20/2019 11:47:49 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: COUNTrecount

Dear Nancy, your trashy articles will be tossed in the schit can if POTUS will get his lawyers cranked up and go to the Supreme Court. It’s the only way to drive a stake through your phony so called articles.


91 posted on 12/20/2019 12:00:07 PM PST by iontheball
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To: COUNTrecount

Go suck on your falsies Nanc….


92 posted on 12/20/2019 12:03:47 PM PST by wardamneagle
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To: HamiltonJay
Johnson was impeached largely over POLICY difference

My understanding it was a violation of an existing law (Tenure act). So, even though the law was eventually appealed, it still had legal standing at the time of his impeachment. So technically, the House impeached Johnson over a real "crime".

It would be somewhat similar if Trump had violated a federal judge decision - for example, the wall. But, Trump was careful to have never provided any true legal impeachment 'hook'.

That's why I claim that Trump is the first politically impeached president. It was done out of pure malice and spite. So, in that regard it's not shameful, but a badge of honor to be politically persecuted defending the rights of those who voted for him.

Like I said, the House has somehow elevated Trump - of all people - to the status of some kind of martyr. Irrespective of Trump, that's a trick not many have been able to accomplish.

93 posted on 12/20/2019 12:12:35 PM PST by semantic
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To: VideoDoctor

“”This is all, eventually, gonna BLOW UP in her face””

Something already did blow up in her face. Do you mean to tell us that she can look worse than she already does?


94 posted on 12/20/2019 12:14:13 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: blueunicorn6
Mentally and emotionally PeLOUSEi IS at best an 8-year-old. What an embarrassment to women and to humanity, in general.
95 posted on 12/20/2019 12:16:59 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp???)
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To: COUNTrecount

This reminds me of the spats between Winston Churchill and Lady Astor. Some of the most quotable lines in History!


96 posted on 12/20/2019 12:25:03 PM PST by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!)
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To: circlecity

“Pelosi: ‘I’m never afraid and I’m rarely surprised’”

Really? BTW, How’s Paul, Nancy? The last time that question got asked, you seemed terrified AND surprised.


97 posted on 12/20/2019 12:27:02 PM PST by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!)
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To: JayAr36
"...the rest of her life..." should read "...the rest of her worthless, malignant criminal life...."
98 posted on 12/20/2019 12:32:48 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp???)
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To: JayAr36
"...the rest of her life..." should read "...the rest of her worthless, malignant criminal life...."
99 posted on 12/20/2019 12:35:08 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp???)
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To: COUNTrecount

My take is Nancy has dementia, Schiff is mentally ill, and Nadler is a Trump hater and was going to get primaried unless he sided with the mob squad...


100 posted on 12/20/2019 12:35:22 PM PST by EVO X
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