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If Impeachment Articles Are Not Delivered to Senate, Did Impeachment Happen?
National Review ^ | 12/20/2019 | Andrew McCarthy

Posted on 12/19/2019 9:15:42 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

I assume that if they do not send over the Articles to the Senate, and if some have speculated, try to hold them over in hopes of the Dems winning back the Senate in 2020 and take control in 2021 ... that the Articles would expire with the seating of the new Congress in 2021.

Then they would have to redo the Impeachment process all over again.


61 posted on 12/20/2019 2:17:43 AM PST by CapnJack
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To: Steve Van Doorn
If you fill out an application and don't turn it in. Did you apply? If you write a check and don't send it in. Did you pay that person?

If you fart and no one smells it?

And so on.


62 posted on 12/20/2019 2:18:23 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: gswilder

51 to change rules.


63 posted on 12/20/2019 2:22:39 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: USCG SimTech

Dems seem stuck. They are not walking it over or walking it back. They are the deer frozen in the headlights.


64 posted on 12/20/2019 2:33:38 AM PST by Boardwalk
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To: SeekAndFind

If Impeachment Articles Are Not Delivered to Senate, Did Impeachment Happen?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

When a tree falls in the woods with no witness present, does it make a sound?

Interesting that we are reduced to koans on Impeachment.

What happened is that a collective of hysterical politicians conducted a pseudo impeachment.

Question: What is making these Dems so hysterical?

What really DID happen in the Ukraine? We are abiout to find out. Therefore Pelosi has put the entire vehicle of the Dem party into a skid that cannot stop. You can smell the burning rubber all the way to Kiev.


65 posted on 12/20/2019 2:37:21 AM PST by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obam_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: SeekAndFind
If Impeachment Articles Are Not Delivered to Senate, Did Impeachment Happen?

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Personally, I heard overnight from a few sources that they do need to be delivered. It is an essential part of the House's obligation. But ...... there are a lot of opinions on this. And I am just (mostly) listening.

You want a glass of milk.... you must first get it from the cow.

66 posted on 12/20/2019 2:43:51 AM PST by a little elbow grease (... to err is human, to admit it divine ...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Articles were passed to impeach the President. But if not taken to the Senate the impeachment articles should be dismissed with prejudice.


67 posted on 12/20/2019 2:47:13 AM PST by tellw (ed)
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To: P-Marlowe

Also the dem lawyer who testified for the dems last week in the judiciary committee. He agrees with you. A guy named Feldman. Not charged until charges pressed. Not impeached until impeachment pressed


68 posted on 12/20/2019 2:47:17 AM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: SeekAndFind

As is always the case when we are dealing with a Constitutional matter, we should start with the Constitution. It says. (commas count) - “The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors”.
From this wording we see distinctly highlighted the two processes, the objective being removal from office. So, clearly there is an ‘impeachment,’ which has occurred and a ‘conviction,’ which has not.
What is more important in the clause is the wording which requires BOTH impeachment and conviction to be based on “Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.” Obviously Nancy’s articles fail the Constitutional test miserably. That is why POTUS needs to take these articles to the U.S. Supreme Court immediately. To quote the Maestro, what the hell has he got to lose?


69 posted on 12/20/2019 2:50:12 AM PST by iontheball
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To: Candor7
said, "What really DID happen in the Ukraine?"

Council on Foreign Relations a George Soros organization Ukrainian-born oligarch Len Blavatnik has been making large donations to the CFR.

70 posted on 12/20/2019 2:53:09 AM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn

A really fat lady Babushka is about to sing IMHO.


71 posted on 12/20/2019 2:58:03 AM PST by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obam_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: CapnJack
Then they would have to redo the Impeachment process all over again.

I believe they will never stop coming up with new reasons to impeach.

72 posted on 12/20/2019 2:59:29 AM PST by Mark17 (Father of Air Force Officer in pilot training. Air Force aircraft, go much faster than Army tanks)
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To: Stosh

BRILLIANT!

Impeachus Inturuptus.

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73 posted on 12/20/2019 3:13:47 AM PST by infool7 (When you have the Lord, nothing else is important and everything is fascinating!)
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To: Coffee... Black... No Sugar

“Obstruction of Congress” is not a crime. Every time a President vetoes a bill, he is obstructing Congress. If it were a crime, then any President could be impeached the moment he vetoes his first bill.

Since the House socialists could not come up with a crime to include in the articles of shampeachment, is the shampeachment even a legal maneuvre? If a prosecutor tries to bring a case before a judge that is only hearsay and innuendo, but which does not contain any mention of a crime as defined by law, does the judge not throw the case out?

I would love to see the Senate throw out the shampeachment on the basis that it contains no mention of a crime or even a misdemeanor as defined by law.


74 posted on 12/20/2019 3:16:01 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: rolling_stone

There’s no role for the Supreme Court in “settling this issue.” In fact, I’m trying to figure out who could possibly have the legal standing to even file a case in the Supreme Court to “settle” anything here.


75 posted on 12/20/2019 3:18:39 AM PST by Alberta's Child (In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.)
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To: CapnJack

I’m not sure that’s true. Bill Clinton was impeached by the House in December 1998, and the trial was held in the next session of Congress in January 1999.


76 posted on 12/20/2019 3:21:13 AM PST by Alberta's Child (In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe no one wants to be a manager?


77 posted on 12/20/2019 3:23:45 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: xzins

That’s the same Noah Feldman who is also a big fan of sharia law, so I would consider his opinion to be as useful as a pile of sh!t in Nancy Pelosi’s district.


78 posted on 12/20/2019 3:23:46 AM PST by Alberta's Child (In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.)
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To: Salamander

Are you sure that isn’t Photoshopped? While it is clear the DemocRAT socialist party is moving on a trajectory similar to the one the National socialist party took in the 1930s, I don’t think they feel comfortable enough yet with their power grab to openly wear the symbolism. That will come later.


79 posted on 12/20/2019 3:26:54 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: Candor7
Definition of koan : a paradox to be meditated upon that is used to train Zen Buddhist monks to abandon ultimate dependence on reason and to force them into gaining sudden intuitive enlightenment.

I have never seen that word before. But that is apt: a government run on the principle that reason must be avoided can only be a tyranny. And Nancy is an unreasoning tyrant, trying to grab more power than the Constitution allows.

80 posted on 12/20/2019 3:34:55 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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