This Land is Whose Land?

American Thinker.com ^ | December 10, 2019 | Willam Sullivan

[Kaslin]

Of all the naïve nonsense that emits from the mouths of young people today, perhaps the most annoying is the constant and ignorant presumption that, somehow, the land within America’s borders doesn’t truly belong to the people who reside here, because the majority are the descendants of people who have migrated from European countries in centuries past. Ostensibly, this land was “stolen” by European settlers hundreds of years ago from the people who happened to live here before.

“[W]e are standing on native land, and Latino people are the descendants of native people,” said a tearful Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez back in February of this year. Therefore, because the land truly belongs to native peoples of the past and their descendants, “Latinos” from other countries enjoy some peculiar “right to human mobility” which suggests that they can, as noncitizens, enter American sovereign territory to enjoy the benefits of American citizenship (and particularly, the benefits of the welfare state, of which she is particularly fond and wishes to expand) without actually obeying the laws that were crafted by the same legislative body which she now serves as a representative.

It would be easy to lay the bulk of the blame for her ignorance at Sandy’s feet alone, but she had ample help from a public indoctrination campaign, which has been underway for many decades in public education, to brainwash our youth into believing that America’s very existence is illegitimate, and little more than a symbolic testament to a brutal colonial past.

Young Sandy was just 14 years old when the venerable Thomas Sowell observed and critiqued these efforts in our educational institutions which taught her such falsehoods. In his 2003 column, “Twisted History,” Sowell writes:

[Lurkinanloomin]

Latinos are descendants of Spanish people, from Spain, which is in Europe.

[Vaquero]

People win and lose wars. The Indians lost wars. The Mexicans lost 2 wars.

We stole nothing.

“This land is your land” was a Marxist song by Marxist Woody Guthrie.

[ClearCase_guy]

Migrations and wars happen.

Demographics change. Deal with it.

That being said, if the US is very foolish, and does not protect our border, and allows unrestricting illegal immigration, and stands by while our entire Southwest becomes an extension of Mexico — then I would be the first to say “That’s how history works. That land became Mexico. Because migrations happen.”

The task for the US (as for any nation) is to protect our land from invasion so that out demographics remain controlled and we remain the USA.

[EnglishOnly]

This woman should be deported.

[bgill]

Every land outside the poles has been fought over time and time and time again and will continue to be fought over log into the future.

[frank ballenger]

There is a woman named “Kolyma1” wsho has a right to tell our “Indians” (Native Americans) to get the Hell out. It’s her country, not the newcomers....

The AAAS reported -——(excerpts) Closest-known ancestor of today’s Native Americans found in Siberia
By Michael Price Jun. 5, 2019
Indigenous Americans, who include Alaska Natives, Canadian First Nations, and Native Americans, descend from humans who crossed an ancient land bridge connecting Siberia in Russia to Alaska tens of thousands of years ago.

In the first study, researchers led by Eske Willerslev, a geneticist at the University of Copenhagen, sequenced the whole genomes of 34 individuals who lived in Siberia, the land bridge Beringia, and Alaska from 600 to nearly 32,000 years ago. The oldest individuals in the sample—two men who lived in far northern Siberia—represent the earliest known humans from that part of the world. There are no direct genetic traces of these men in any of the other groups the team surveyed, suggesting their culture likely died out about 23,000 years ago when the region became too cold to be inhabitable.

Elsewhere on the Eurasian continent, however, a group arose that would eventually move into Siberia, splinter, and cross Beringia into North America, the DNA analysis reveals. A woman known as Kolyma1, who lived in northeastern Siberia about 10,000 years ago, shares about two-thirds of her genome with living Native Americans. “It’s the closest we have ever gotten to a Native American ancestor outside the Americas,” Willerslev says.

[HangnJudge]

Rotate vision 90 deg.

I/We/You do not own anything
It is not “mine” to give
It is not “yours” to take (theft)
It is not “others” to desire (covetousness)

At most we have stewardship over a thing, for a time
It is God’s Land

[Little Ray]

It wasn’t “stolen,” it was conquered.
And if we don’t want to be conquered, we need to be taking some steps.

[gunnyg]

Thomever Takes it and holds it is the only question I see!
;)
***
GunnyG@PlanetWTF?/WNW!
SemperTRUMP.45!
++++++++++++++++++++++++++

[NativeSon]

Whatever the United States “owes” to American Indians, it does not extend to the citizens of other countries.

I am the descendent of Navajo (born to) and Northern European (born for) blood. The descendants of Indian & Southern European blood are to blame for their own sh***y countries, not me/us.

If they keep this up, they won’t like the outcome but I get to play “cowboy” this time around.

[elcid1970]

Out in the country, far from a highway
There is this land here, and it is my way.
Don’t ever come here, or you’ll be sorry
This land was made just for me.

This land is my land, it isn’t your land
I got a shotgun, and you don’t got one.
If you don’t get off, I’ll blow your head off,
This land was made just for me.

So keep away now, don’t ruin my day now
My property’s private, you cannot buy it.
Go find your own land, just be a lone man,
This land was made just for me.

This land is my land, it isn’t your land
I got a shotgun, and you don’t got one.
If you don’t get off, I’ll blow your head off
This land was made just for me.

[AlanGreenSpam]

The supreme irony about idiots like AOC is that on the one hand they say “This land belongs to the original inhabitants and Europeans don’t belong here...” - so that means they are essentially anti-immigration and they believe in borders.

On the other hand, they demand that we have open borders and illegal immigration.

Go figure! Such hypocrisy.

[FormerLib]

Humans are not native to the American continents. They all came over from Asia, Africa, and Europe.

[The Toll]

“That being said, if the US is very foolish, and does not protect our border, and allows unrestricting illegal immigration”

I think that “if” has already been decided.

[Mr Ramsbotham]

Situations transpire.

[rktman]

I looked and sure enough there it is plain as day for all to see. Yup. Attached to europe. Uh, hey aoc-——fah-q!

[Bratch]

For perspective.

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In his 2003 column, “Twisted History,” Sowell writes:

One of the reasons our children do not measure up academically to children in other countries is because so much time is spent in American classrooms twisting our history for ideological purposes. 

“How would you feel if you were a Native American who saw the European invaders taking away your land?” is the kind of question our children are likely to be confronted with in our schools. It is a classic example of trying to look at the past with the assumptions -- and the ignorance -- of the present.

One of the things we take for granted today is that it is wrong to take other people’s land by force.  Neither American Indians nor the European invaders believed that.

Both took other people’s lands by force -- as did Asians, Africans, and others.  The Indians no doubt regretted losing so many battles.  But that is wholly different from saying that they thought battles were the wrong way to settle ownership of the land.

 

[Bratch]

Situations transpire.

[sima_yi]

When the White Man came to these shores, the rules that were in place here at the time were very simple: "If someone has something you want, kill him and take it." These were the rules that the various American Indian tribes followed. The problem was, the White Man was a lot better at it.

Some of my ancestors were the Huron, and it was not the White Man who decimated them and drove them from their lands, is was those damned Iroquois, and if there were enough of us left, we would go to war against them.

Our problem was that we allied ourselves with the French White Men, and they were not as good of fighters as the English White Men, something that remains true even today.

Of course, we were not as good of fighters as the Iroquois, so that may have had something to do with it.