Posted on 12/09/2019 3:45:03 AM PST by Kaslin
Isnt it a tad bit ironic that one of the most controversial conservative positions out there happens to be the one that, if implemented, would actually do the most to conserve the United States as a functioning, liberty-respecting republic? In fact, to make a cogent case for that position - an all-out immigration moratorium - is to practically ask to be called every knee-jerk name in the book by the left and even by some on the right eager to distance themselves from a position the left has successfully managed to brainwash most of a gullible public into believing is somehow evil.
Even so, its where we are in terms of discourse, unfortunately. Thats because, arguably next to President Trump getting reelected, an all-out immigration moratorium is quite possibly the lefts worst nightmare, because it would represent a halt to their ongoing plans to implement, then use demographic change to seize and maintain power.
But sadly, conservatives are far from united. Mainline conservatives are generally OK with calling for an end to illegal immigration. Youll often see them on the primetime news shows sliding in that ubiquitous Im really, really a good person, I promise. I LOVE immigrants. I just want them to come LEGALLY, thats all. Oh, and the more the merrier! as they argue against the illegal kind, or even using some variation of President Trumps big, beautiful door visual as they make their case for a border wall.
Sure, curbing illegal immigration and controlling who comes into the country with the help of a giant border wall, even if it has a big, beautiful door, are both noble, moral imperatives. Not knowing who is here and not controlling who is allowed to come much better than the alternatives, particularly when it comes to combating terrorism. However, thats generally as far as the so-called Conservative, Inc. crowd will go when it comes to the immigration issue. Their motives probably have something to do with a combination of big-business interests and thinking that not being a meanie will somehow endear them to the left. (That and not wanting to be called the dreaded R-word, of course.)
Yet, the more than a few problems with their the more the merrier approach include the questions of just how many more, and will things really be merrier? If you say you love legal immigration, then why not just give the left its wish and legalize it all? Or make it where the United States is accepting, instead of its current 1 million, 10 million, or 20 million, or even more? I mean, if we legalize it, its LEGAL, right as in legal immigration? If being illegal is your only problem, theres an easy solution the left would doubtless cooperate on implementing. We could even make a giant wall, impenetrable even, but if we leave the big, beautiful door open to whoever wants to come in, even granting that we know who they are, that doesnt change the societal, structural, and economic problems such a massive population shift would create.
Which is why some on the right, including North Carolina District 7 Congressional candidate Pete DAbrosca, are arguing for a complete moratorium on legal immigration. In DAbroscas case, hes asking for a 10-year period where the number that is allowed to enter the United States is equal to the number who leave. About 200,000 people leave the United States every year, DAbrosca told Fox News host Tucker Carlson on Thursday. Bringing in 200,000 legal aliens would be fine, but the bottom line is we would like to have no population increase from legal immigration.
Oh, youre not allowed to say that, Carlson sarcastically replied before summing up the state of affairs when it comes to discussing the immigration issue in 2020: Because the left controls the terms that the right uses, as you know, and youre allowed to say under duress that youre against illegal immigration, but youre never allowed to say that there should be some absolute cap.
Because the left considers such a discussion evil, for some reason. But is it really? Even the most ardent leftist might acknowledge that we cant possibly admit the hundreds of millions (if not billions) who would come here if they could. Is a family evil for not adopting every orphan available to adopt? Is the captain of a lifeboat evil for not bringing on so many passengers that his boat would sink? And yet, they call US names for opposing their sick power schemes.
So what ARE their motives, then, since they are so quick to judge ours? In a moment of candor, National Office for the Advancement Project executive director Judith Browne Dianis got an Amen! from former Obama administration official Stephanie Valencia for the following statement, said on a panel last week
So that when we get to 2042 or 2045, whatever year you want to use, that we actually will not be suffering from what other countries like South Africa had, which is having the numbers but not having the power. We want You know, people say demographics are not destiny. Well, were trying to make it destiny so thats the work that we are doing.
What Dianis said is absolutely true, of course, both in terms of demographics being destiny and the left knowing and using that fact. But dont dare call them out on any of it, or you might get called the R word.
How many years now have conservative pundits mindlessly repeated the line about “11 million illegal immigrants” and “I am not against immigration, only illegal immigration.”
I’ll go out on a limb and say that everyone on here would love to see this. Heck, about 99.9% of this would like it to be retroactive to 1986. But, with the way things seem to be changing so quickly with regards to voting demographics and that fact that it seems like there’s some grand, master plan to flip every Red state, it looks like folks are FINALLY starting to pay more attention. I think Texas is pretty much done.
Not just because of the illegals and their liberal masters figuring out some way to get them in the voting booth. With Southern State Governors giving away the farm to lure businesses, promising jobs to their constituents, only to see them go to Yankees and liberal hipsters from parts unknown, things are changing fast. I think Texas is pretty much done. Tennessee and Georgia aren’t too far behind. When the liberals move, en masse, to the various metro areas, the folks out in the country can’t compete. Heck, even South Carolina is starting to veer that way, as well. Look at how things have changed in Columbia, with all the hipsters, and along the coast, as folks from the Northeast bail out of the hell holes they created.
I, and everyone else, could go on as we all know the story. However, it seems to me that there seem to be more articles like this popping up. Hopefully, as more people realize that we’re subsidizing the world and folks are getting shut out of the job market, as good as it is in some areas, this will pick up steam and we can elect folks that actually support this.
I firmly believe that if POTUS could, he’d slam that door shut, with a quickness.
Side note: Sen. H-1B Lee ought to be run out of the country on a rail.
Unless we curb legal immigration the only way to make work pay enough to thrive instead of just subsist then labor unions will come back and rightly so.
Add Oklahoma to that list. Our major metropolitan areas of Oklahoma City and Tulsa are eaten up with filthy fags and kalifornians with their parades, etc.
What about the 40-50 million criminal, illegal aliens already here?
America is full up, we don’t need anymore illiterate dullards that don’t speak English. Learn to run your own leafblower.
That's been my thought for quite some time.
Close the doors for 3-5 years, then see where we are and what/who might be needed after that.
It was done before during the early 29th century
Do it now Trump.
Long enough to recognize that it is nearer 40 million than not....
The electoral college will soon mirror the popular vote as blue state Dems move to red states. It won’t take a long. A decade or so is my guess. Maybe a bit longer for Texas, Georgia and Florida to go the way of Virginia.
Wow instead of being 78 years old, I'm 178 years old. Waaaaa. I don't want to live that long.
Clint has taught us to think at least 90
He directed movies at 86 and again at 88.
Really? I would have thought that Oklahoma would be the last one standing.
Pretty much the entire problem in the USA, in a nutshell. Past generations had no trouble being very "mean" when it was needed. China, Russia, and Iran will have no problem with it, either.
Legal immigrants need to be willing and able to make a positive contribution. All that is needed is to make our laws match what other modern countries require. It would remain relatively straightforward for high-ability people to enter the country and re-impose a huge barrier for undesirables: cartel operatives, Muslims, manual laborers, 60 IQ refugees, and Marxist radicals.
What I find most amazing about this phenomena is how Dem’s move into a state, ie Virginia, and flip it. As they do that, they embrace all things liberal, like immigration and more liberal policing and more liberal prosecuters, etc.
So now, Virginia is about as Left as it can get, in the same way that Cali, Wash, Oregon, NY are because the densely populated areas in NoVa, Richmond, etc control everything that goes on. Even though a large part of the state is rather Conservative. Violent crime continues to tick up in NoVa. Gang problems are increasing as they welcome more immigration. Three counties in NoVa just elected DAs, that are such radical Leftists, that the incumbent Democrats they beat are warning folks about what is on the way. Look at the DAs in LA, Dallas, SanFran, Philly, Chicago, NY, etc, they’re legalizing crimes.
While all of that is going on, the Leftists that bring this, tend to live in the safest, most antiseptic, homogeneous, WHITE LIBERAL AFFLUENT neighborhoods, where only those like them can live. And while they demand safety from the police and prosecutors, the rest of the town, city, county are turned into disaster areas. Isn’t it amazing that college & university towns all across America, that embrace radical Leftist ideologies are still, pretty safe? How is it that those schools, students and professors can embrace all things Leftists, yet they don’t deal with any of the consequences of what they support. Amazing.
We need a complete immigration moratorium for probably twenty years. We need to couple that with a concerted effort to remove ALL illegals presently in the country, including their anchor baby spawn.
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