Posted on 11/23/2019 2:41:39 PM PST by yesthatjallen
"The European and American public are being systematically lied to about the Ukraine crisis." - March 12, 2014
This video doesn't discuss what's currently going on in Ukraine with Trump but discusses some questionable activities including McCain supporting a violent political group called Svoboda. Obama and Kerry are mentioned.
Were Obama and McCain trying to spark a conflict between Ukraine and Russia? Were Obama and McCain setting up Svoboda so they would take the fall if any conflict erupted? You know, help take down Svobda, a group they supported, so the US could look like the hero? Or were Obama and McCain looking to create a civil war in Ukraine? There are many possibilities. (The comments in this paragraph are not necessarily those stated in the video. I'm only speculating).
Like all political intrigue there are multiple, hidden layers we may never know about.
The comments at the youtube link overwhelming support the claims made in this video.
The website that produced this video, Storm Clouds Gathering, in no longer active (or was taken down).
stormcloudsgathering.com
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If McCain is involved in this mess, so is Graham. Will he recuse himself? Will he be a witness?
Now, with the Biden threat aimed at Graham.... get the popcorn.
The truth - something the Leftist Media has abandoned.
That was one of my take-aways from the "impeachment" hearings. Fiona Hill and others are advocates for a pro-Ukrainian policy, in sync with Soros, and disdainful of the US political process.
God help us.
John McCain tells Ukraine protesters: ‘We are here to support your just cause’
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/15/john-mccain-ukraine-protests-support-just-cause
Analysis: U.S. Cozies Up to Kiev Government Including Far Right
Who's that with him?
The Ukraine had problems with Russia before Obama was elected
Someone who looks a lot like Lindsey Graham.
Apparently the new government in the Ukraine has been investigation corruption already.
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/press-conference/625831.html
Gee, I think I have seen that face somewhere....
Sounds like a nutter:
Storm Clouds Gathering | StormCloudsGathering
stormcloudsgathering.com/project/StormCloudsGathering
The Storm Clouds Gathering project was created, and is primarily maintained by Aaron Hawkins. Aaron was born in the United States, but relinquished U.S. citizenship upon acquiring French nationality in 2015. He has lived in the Commonwealth of Dominica since 2012, where he manages an off-grid farm in the mountains.
Ukraine broke away from Russia after the October 1917 Bolshevik coup. By early 1918 the primary non red government was negotiating with the Germans in parallel but separate from the Bolsheviks. There were 5 distinct governments and breakaway areas including far eastern Ukraine. Kyiv changed hands 16 times from 1918 to 1920.
Thanks.
Watched it. Should have known. Anything with Oliver Stone, who fancies himself a citizen of the world, is going to be sophomoric and anti American This was typical anti American fare with Stone laying the premise that the US was behind creating conflict with Russia over Ukraine. Other than one reference to Soros, the Dems were not touched.
Has little to do with democrats and corruption relative to the impeachment. Was produced before the impeachment
This video has nothing to do with Oliver Stone. This isn’t the Stone Ukrainian movie.
And now Ukraine has elected by an overwhelming margin President Zelensky, who happens to be Jewish.
George Soros is Jewish too I heard. And Zelensky is obviously a clown and a figurehead. Don’t be fooled by their fake pro-Trump maneuvers. Poroshenko started doing it to placate his blatant pro-Hillary meddling already. It doesn’t make their cess-pool of corruption any better.
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