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Ukraine Crisis - What You're Not Being Told (March 12, 2014. 10 mins)
Storm Clounds Gathering/Youtube ^ | Mar 12, 2014 | Storm Clounds Gathering

Posted on 11/23/2019 2:41:39 PM PST by yesthatjallen

"The European and American public are being systematically lied to about the Ukraine crisis." - March 12, 2014

This video doesn't discuss what's currently going on in Ukraine with Trump but discusses some questionable activities including McCain supporting a violent political group called Svoboda. Obama and Kerry are mentioned.

Were Obama and McCain trying to spark a conflict between Ukraine and Russia? Were Obama and McCain setting up Svoboda so they would take the fall if any conflict erupted? You know, help take down Svobda, a group they supported, so the US could look like the hero? Or were Obama and McCain looking to create a civil war in Ukraine? There are many possibilities. (The comments in this paragraph are not necessarily those stated in the video. I'm only speculating).

Like all political intrigue there are multiple, hidden layers we may never know about.

The comments at the youtube link overwhelming support the claims made in this video.

The website that produced this video, Storm Clouds Gathering, in no longer active (or was taken down).

stormcloudsgathering.com

Svoboda (political party)

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aaronhawkins; antiwarhysteria; hawkins; kerry; mccain; obama; russia; russianpropaganda; stormcloudsgathering; ukraine
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1 posted on 11/23/2019 2:41:39 PM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

If McCain is involved in this mess, so is Graham. Will he recuse himself? Will he be a witness?


2 posted on 11/23/2019 2:52:41 PM PST by ryderann
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To: ryderann

Now, with the Biden threat aimed at Graham.... get the popcorn.


3 posted on 11/23/2019 3:03:21 PM PST by ptsal
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To: yesthatjallen
What You're Not Being Told

The truth - something the Leftist Media has abandoned.

4 posted on 11/23/2019 3:04:20 PM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: yesthatjallen
The situation of US involvement in the overthrow of the Ukrainian gov and elections that never represented more than a portion of western Ukraine was always bad news. There were a lot of supporters of it on FR, really ginning up support. The US never should've been involved in this Soros-inspired adventure.

That was one of my take-aways from the "impeachment" hearings. Fiona Hill and others are advocates for a pro-Ukrainian policy, in sync with Soros, and disdainful of the US political process.

God help us.

5 posted on 11/23/2019 3:10:33 PM PST by grania ("We're all just pawns in their game")
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To: yesthatjallen

John McCain tells Ukraine protesters: ‘We are here to support your just cause’

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/15/john-mccain-ukraine-protests-support-just-cause


6 posted on 11/23/2019 3:15:07 PM PST by McGruff (Does no one is above the law apply to Democrats?)
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To: yesthatjallen

Analysis: U.S. Cozies Up to Kiev Government Including Far Right

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ukraine-crisis/analysis-u-s-cozies-kiev-government-including-far-right-n66061


7 posted on 11/23/2019 3:20:54 PM PST by McGruff (Does no one is above the law apply to Democrats?)
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To: ptsal

Who's that with him?

8 posted on 11/23/2019 3:21:48 PM PST by McGruff (Does no one is above the law apply to Democrats?)
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To: yesthatjallen

The Ukraine had problems with Russia before Obama was elected


9 posted on 11/23/2019 3:25:54 PM PST by rrrod
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To: McGruff

Someone who looks a lot like Lindsey Graham.


10 posted on 11/23/2019 3:35:10 PM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

Apparently the new government in the Ukraine has been investigation corruption already.

https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/press-conference/625831.html


11 posted on 11/23/2019 3:37:55 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: McGruff

Gee, I think I have seen that face somewhere....


12 posted on 11/23/2019 3:46:31 PM PST by ptsal
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To: yesthatjallen

Sounds like a nutter:

Storm Clouds Gathering | StormCloudsGathering
stormcloudsgathering.com/project/StormCloudsGathering

The Storm Clouds Gathering project was created, and is primarily maintained by Aaron Hawkins. Aaron was born in the United States, but relinquished U.S. citizenship upon acquiring French nationality in 2015. He has lived in the Commonwealth of Dominica since 2012, where he manages an off-grid farm in the mountains.


13 posted on 11/23/2019 4:03:57 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: rrrod

Ukraine broke away from Russia after the October 1917 Bolshevik coup. By early 1918 the primary non red government was negotiating with the Germans in parallel but separate from the Bolsheviks. There were 5 distinct governments and breakaway areas including far eastern Ukraine. Kyiv changed hands 16 times from 1918 to 1920.


14 posted on 11/23/2019 4:15:32 PM PST by bravo whiskey (Never bring a liberal gun law to a gun fight.)
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To: bravo whiskey

Thanks.


15 posted on 11/23/2019 4:39:23 PM PST by rrrod
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To: yesthatjallen

Watched it. Should have known. Anything with Oliver Stone, who fancies himself a citizen of the world, is going to be sophomoric and anti American This was typical anti American fare with Stone laying the premise that the US was behind creating conflict with Russia over Ukraine. Other than one reference to Soros, the Dems were not touched.
Has little to do with democrats and corruption relative to the impeachment. Was produced before the impeachment


16 posted on 11/23/2019 5:23:21 PM PST by chuckee
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This video has nothing to do with Oliver Stone. This isn’t the Stone Ukrainian movie.


17 posted on 11/23/2019 6:07:09 PM PST by yesthatjallen
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18 posted on 11/23/2019 8:50:55 PM PST by NorseViking
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And now Ukraine has elected by an overwhelming margin President Zelensky, who happens to be Jewish.


19 posted on 11/24/2019 6:19:15 AM PST by tlozo
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George Soros is Jewish too I heard. And Zelensky is obviously a clown and a figurehead. Don’t be fooled by their fake pro-Trump maneuvers. Poroshenko started doing it to placate his blatant pro-Hillary meddling already. It doesn’t make their cess-pool of corruption any better.


20 posted on 11/24/2019 6:30:30 AM PST by NorseViking
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