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Stick a fork in Liz Warren, Medicare-for-All has cooked her
Boston Herald ^ | November 3, 2019 | Adriana Cohen

Posted on 11/04/2019 4:41:36 AM PST by billorites

Put a fork in Elizabeth Warren’s presidential campaign —it’s over.

Now that she’s finally released details on her Medicare-for-All plan and its eye-wincing $52 trillion projected price tag, there’s no way that 160 million Americans who like their healthcare plans — including labor unions — will want to see them made illegal.

Nor will any rational citizen want to have critical health-care decisions being made by faceless government bureaucrats who will decide what doctor you can see, and what medical treatment or surgery you’re permitted to get — or not.

If Medicare-for-All is implemented, wave goodbye to consumer choice and say hello to rationed care and longer wait times to get medical treatment and prescription drugs.

But don’t take my word for it, take a glimpse at how socialized medicine is working in neighboring Canada.

Last year the Fraser Institute, an independent Canadian think tank, reported the median wait time to see a general practitioner is 8.7 weeks. To see a specialist is an additional 11 weeks. That’s nearly 20 weeks before a Canadian citizen can get the care they need. Now consider if you or a loved one has a life-threatening illness like cancer where the disease will likely advance while waiting months before the bureaucracy hopefully signs off on treatment.

Gaffes notwithstanding, Joe Biden is poised to benefit politically from Warren’s socialized medicine plan. He now appears like the adult in the room by opposing the elimination of private insurance.

In a statement released Friday, Biden’s campaign slammed Warren for promising her plan won’t raise taxes on the middle class.

“For months, Elizabeth Warren has refused to say if her health care plan would raise taxes on the middle class, and now we know why: because it does. Senator Warren would place a new tax of nearly $9 trillion that will fall on American workers.”

If anyone thinks allowing power hungry socialists to control the entire health-care industry — 20% of the U.S. economy — is a good idea or will go smoothly, just remember that here in Massachusetts, the government couldn’t even get a website to work during the Obamacare rollout.

And who can forget the 2015 inspector general’s report that found that 307,000 veterans may have died waiting for medical treatment at the VA? Not exactly confidence building.

But that’s not all. Warren’s Medicare For All plan will also destroy at least two million jobs. A stark reality that will buoy the campaigns of Biden and Pete Buttigieg, campaigns who by contrast come off as more sensible moderates.

Will we see a future Biden/Buttigieg ticket in the making? Only time will tell.

What we do know right now, is Warren’s days are numbered.


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To: Damifino

One of our daughters is daughter is a senior, pre med major. She is right now in the medical the admissions process.

She is waiting for interviews - she has one scheduled.

Stressful!!


21 posted on 11/04/2019 5:17:48 AM PST by stonehouse01
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

If you count up the total who were in the running...it reached 27 at some point. Right now? In terms of outright winning primary states? I would suggest we are down to four candidates (Biden, Warren, Mayor Pete, and Sanders). But if you measured enthusiasm and getting people to actually come out in the primary...NONE of the four are achieving anything.

I’ll also offer this...having six months of debates was awful stupid. We have still twelve weeks before we get to the primary start-up. I seriously doubt that Sanders has the money to reach Iowa.


22 posted on 11/04/2019 5:18:25 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: stonehouse01

oops typo = should read: One of our daughters is a senior, pre med major.


23 posted on 11/04/2019 5:18:46 AM PST by stonehouse01
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To: Ann Archy

Hate to tell you..but they will FORCE the Drs to take it.

Think it has got so bad these days under Obastardcare? This plan is Obastardcare with steroids.


24 posted on 11/04/2019 5:23:33 AM PST by crz
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To: billorites

Lying about being Indian hasn’t sunk her, being a socialist won’t either.


25 posted on 11/04/2019 5:23:39 AM PST by bethelgrad
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To: pepsionice

I think they built a weak field and then planned debates too early all so that Hillary could sail in and save them at the last minute.

Because if this debacle isn’t intentional it’s pretty amazing.


26 posted on 11/04/2019 5:25:43 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: billorites
Stick a fork in Liz Warren, Medicare-for-All has cooked her

Lizzie will retain huge portions of supporters that suport her "medicare for all plan" and disregard any explanation that in the real world it can't be financed, and also those urban women that support her strictly because [presumably] she is a woman. Biden will want to try and tap those voters.

I predict a Biden/Lieawatha ticket.

27 posted on 11/04/2019 5:25:43 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Takedown My Duly Elected President and You're Attacking The Constitution! IT WILL BE DEFENDED!)
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To: billorites

DEMOCRAT CARE, THEY HATE YOU

Medicare For NONE

is FakeCare failure disguised as medical service.

DemocratCare
WarrenCare
ObamaCare
RomneyCare
HillaryCare
PelosiCare
SchumerCare
ClintonCare
WelfareCare
MedicaidCare
ACA UnAffordableCare
CHIP Children’s FakeCare

... NONE of them care about you!!

Democrats want to rip you off.

Democrats hate you.


28 posted on 11/04/2019 5:26:45 AM PST by TheNext (I Am I Think)
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To: far sider

If they’re the moderates, you gotta wonder why Democrats cotton to the likes of Wampum and Bernie.


29 posted on 11/04/2019 5:28:09 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Ann Archy

Precisely. My good doctor of twenty years told us to find another when we become eligible


30 posted on 11/04/2019 5:31:33 AM PST by griswold3 (Democratic Socialism is Slavery by Mob Rule)
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To: Gay State Conservative

We just moved states and had no problem finding Drs that take Medicare.


31 posted on 11/04/2019 5:41:23 AM PST by Oldexpat (Jobs Not Mobs)
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To: billorites

FYI, Tulsi Gabbard also wants Medicare for all, if you can believe Wikipedia. IMO, she’s the “dark horse” the DNC really wants. She’s just as radical as the rest of them, but they want to portray her as moderate, so old line democrats will vote for her. They also adore Buttigieg, but there’s no way they can package his homosexuality, so that traditional, old fashioned Dems will vote for him.


32 posted on 11/04/2019 5:44:04 AM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: stonehouse01

Oh, good. I thought it was just me that didn’t get it. Went to brew another cup of coffee. ;o)


33 posted on 11/04/2019 5:45:07 AM PST by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: stonehouse01

So very true. Our “best and brightest” will avoid medicine for more instantly lucrative fields like finance. Our medical care will be delivered by third worlders, even more than today


34 posted on 11/04/2019 5:55:09 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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To: All

(HAT TIP FOX NEWS)

In case Warren’s mind-boggling $52 trillion “free” health care plan is hard to wrap your head around, these figures put it in perspective.

Total annual U.S. corporate profits: $2.08 trillion

Combined net worth of the world’s 2,153 billionaires: $8.7 trillion

Total U.S. national debt: $22.9 trillion

Total value of the U.S. stock market: $32.3 trillion

Total value of all U.S. homes: $33.3 trillion

Total spending on health care in the United States from 1960 to 2017: $59.6 trillion

How much revenue (taxes) the U.S. government has received in its history: $76.7 trillion

Total world combined GDP: $86.6 trillion

How much the U.S. government has spent in its history: $91.7 trillion


35 posted on 11/04/2019 5:59:17 AM PST by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Ann Archy
Finding a good doctor who takes Medicare is NOT EASY!

Which is precisely WHY they want Medicare-for-All. Doctors will have no choice but to take it, other than retirement or expatriation.


36 posted on 11/04/2019 6:01:18 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: billorites
Will we see a future Biden/Buttigieg ticket in the making?

They have invested too much in the "White Males are the Root of All Evil" meme - they don't dare do anything like this or they will create a viable Green Party challenger.

37 posted on 11/04/2019 6:01:57 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Liz

I am sure you researched that and are correct on all points.

Despite this Warren will survive, due to the mathematical illiteracy of our population.


38 posted on 11/04/2019 6:02:35 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Damifino

Yeah Tulsi is smart enough to know you never give up the con, never. The elctorite is not going for an out of the closet socialist.


39 posted on 11/04/2019 6:04:29 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: TheNext

You forgot “RyanCare” (aka “obozocare-lite”) that he pushed on Trump in 2017.

Thank God that died.


40 posted on 11/04/2019 6:04:31 AM PST by newfreep ("INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN SCREAMING TO GET OUT" - DAVID HOROWITZ)
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