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Why Pelosi Doesn't Need a Full House Vote for an Impeachment Inquiry, Despite Trump's Demand
Newsweek ^ | Oct 4, 2019 | Ramsey Touchberry

Posted on 10/04/2019 7:56:42 PM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?

President Donald Trump confirmed Friday that he intends to send a letter to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) stating that, until the full House votes to authorize the chamber's ongoing impeachment inquiry, the administration will not comply with subpoenas and other demands for witness testimony and documents.

Trump and Republicans—who've been daring Pelosi to vote on the matter—believe that such a move would put vulnerable swing state Democrats in a tough spot and force members to more officially go on the record, as all but a handful of House Democrats support an impeachment inquiry into Trump.

The White House has refused for months to cooperate with various congressional subpoenas for witness testimonies and documents, and its directed current and former officials to not comply. And the response to subpoenas and information requests under Democrats' impeachment inquiry in recent weeks has—thus far—been no different.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
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41 posted on 10/04/2019 9:25:48 PM PDT by bitt
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

No one can cite any Constitutional requirement to comply with an Impeachment inquiry.


42 posted on 10/04/2019 9:37:02 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Only God's or our wrath can save te nation. Voting and posting isn't working.)
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To: patriotfury

Don’t you mean Newsweak?


43 posted on 10/04/2019 9:54:35 PM PDT by MrChips ("To wisdom belongs the apprehension of eternal things." - St. Augustine)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
NEWSWEAK
44 posted on 10/04/2019 11:04:53 PM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Useless author


45 posted on 10/04/2019 11:19:54 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?; bitt
because she's got her own Ukraine scandal?

with her son Paul...


46 posted on 10/05/2019 12:39:36 AM PDT by Brown Deer (America First!)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
In Washington DC if you have the votes, you vote. Pelosi hasn't got the votes. I'm one American who is sick of this shit. It's going on 3 years of this crap. ENOUGH! If the Democrats don't stop this then they need to be made to stop.
47 posted on 10/05/2019 1:20:23 AM PDT by jmacusa ("If wisdom is not the Lord, what is wisdom?)
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To: ETCM
"The House of Representatives" is not a single member.

That was also my reaction. Nancy Pelosi is just one member of Congress, even if she's been elected Speaker, and she can't unilaterally declare an impeachment inquiry with the power to subpoena documents and witnesses from the Executive Branch. Oh sure, she can try, but the President can just ignore her. If the Democrats go to court to enforce their subpoenas, the courts (especially the Supreme Court) will most likely say that it's a dispute between the Executive Branch and the Legislative Branch, and not something for the Judicial Branch to get involved in.

Of course the real battle isn't a legal one, it's a public relations one. House Democrats are desperate to find a charge which will justify impeachment, and they're hoping that they can use Trump's ignoring the subpoenas as the excuse. That's not a bad play on the surface, since it can be made to sound like "obstruction of justice" to many voters.

But Trump's riposte is more powerful. He can keep insisting that the House first formally vote for an impeachment inquiry before he'll respond to any subpoenas: He's not obstructing anything as long as there is no official action to obstruct. Every time the House issues a new demand for documents, Trump will just demand that they vote first. It's a stalemate that only Trump can win, since the only way to break it is for the House to finally vote to impeach him, which is precisely what Trump has been demanding.

Trump essentially controls the clock with this maneuver. He can drag the game out for as long as he likes, or speed it up if that looks more advantageous. And Mitch McConnell similarly controls the clock if the impeachment ever gets to the Senate. Mitch can drag things out or speed things up, however he prefers.

48 posted on 10/05/2019 1:50:00 AM PDT by dpwiener
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

In the United States, they can’t impeach a President just because they don’t like him. They can’t lie through their teeth to the public and impeach the President on grounds they made up. They have nothing to impeach Trump on, and lies won’t do it... They are breaking every law and rule in the books to try to get rid of our President... ONLY because they don’t like him.

They do not get to decide who the President is... voters do. and Trump was elected fair and square. So impeachment is not legal... but the dems pay no attention to legality any more.

So, the President should not cooperate with their made up rules... the President should not participate in any way, with the dems and their lies and their deceit and their corruption. To do so would be to legitimize their corrupt behavior. it’s time to call it what it is.. to overthrow the government/Trump, is treason.


49 posted on 10/05/2019 2:05:39 AM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: Meatspace

There is a semi-colon there, indicating a separate thought. The phrase that follows is a clause modifying “House of Representatives”; NOT “Speaker and other Officers”.

At least that’s in the English I was taught.


50 posted on 10/05/2019 2:22:52 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Bump


51 posted on 10/05/2019 2:42:28 AM PDT by foreverfree
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Nice ! forcing those democrats in swing states who have not signed on to the impeachment farce to walk the rat walk jeopardizing their re election and possibly giving us the house


52 posted on 10/05/2019 2:44:43 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (nicdip.com)
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To: Lurkinanloomin; P-Marlowe

The House of Reps shall choose their own speaker and have the sole power of impeachment.

It says “the House of reps”. It doesnt say “a committee” or “the speaker.”

So, Trump is on solid ground. Pelosi is not “the House of Reps.”


53 posted on 10/05/2019 2:54:33 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Randy Doucheberry is a Douche.


54 posted on 10/05/2019 3:12:54 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: ETCM

1. Before all 435 members of the House can take up the issue of impeachment, a small group known as the House Judiciary Committee must assess and vote on the articles of impeachment. These articles of impeachment must address any allegedly impeachable offenses committed by the president.

2. Once the articles of impeachment are drafted, the 40 members of the House Judiciary Committee would vote on whether or not bring them to the full House of Representatives.

For the articles of impeachment to successfully pass through the House Judiciary Committee, a simple majority vote is sufficient. That means that 21 of the 40 members of the committee would need to vote in favor of passing the articles of impeachment to the rest of the House.

3. Once the articles make it out of the Judiciary Committee, the 435 members of the House of Representatives can debate the merits of the articles of impeachment. Just like in the Judiciary Committee, lawmakers need only achieve a simple majority in order to successfully impeach the president and move this whole thing to the Senate. If 218 representatives vote in favor of even one of the articles of impeachment, the president would be impeached. However, it’s worth noting that impeachment does not necessarily ensure the president’s removal from office.

4. For a president to be removed from office following impeachment, the Senate must organize an impeachment trial. That means that by the time the impeachment process brings the president before the Senate in order to defend himself, the “impeachment” portion of the proceedings is complete. In an impeachment trial, the Senate serves as the court, judge, and jury, while specially appointed members of the House — typically handpicked from the Judiciary Committee — serve as prosecutors against the president. The Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court, currently John Roberts, presides over the trial.

5. Unlike in the House of Representatives, a Senate vote to remove the president from office requires more than a simple majority. Instead, two-thirds of the Senate’s 100 members — so at least 67 senators — must vote in favor of the president’s removal from office.

https://www.elitedaily.com/news/politics/number-members-congress-need-impeach-president/1958544


55 posted on 10/05/2019 4:31:11 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: mrsmith

Whether intended or an unintended consequence, what the demon rats are doing is erasing the Power of the President to deal with foreign friends and enemies. The demon rats are creating the environment in which the Office of The President has no standing in the eyes of the foreign friends and enemies. THAT IS TREASONOUS behavior and every one of the ones going along with Nazi Pelosi’s encirclement of the Presidential duties should be tired and hanged, with Nazi Pelosi and Jerrold ‘pig’ Nadler right behind Adam Shifty at the gallows.


56 posted on 10/05/2019 4:40:36 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: timestax

57 posted on 10/05/2019 4:41:36 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: MHGinTN

TRIED not tired ... this ain’t Winny Mandela’s venue.


58 posted on 10/05/2019 4:49:03 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Brown Deer; All

Brown Deer wrote:
because she’s got her own Ukraine scandal?
You can also use this link when posting that comment
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60 posted on 10/05/2019 5:26:16 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L,J,Keslin posting fobills are nr the record hoping some might read and pass around)
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