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FBI: West Texas gunman ‘was on a long spiral of going down’
Associated Press ^ | September 2, 2019 | PAUL J. WEBER and JAKE BLEIBERG

Posted on 09/02/2019 9:43:51 PM PDT by familyop

FBI special agent Christopher Combs said Ator called the agency’s tip line...making “rambling statements about some of the atrocities that he felt that he had gone through.” “He was on a long spiral of going down,” Combs said. “He didn’t wake up Saturday morning and walk into his company and then it happened. He went to that company in trouble.” ...Ator had previously failed a federal background check for a firearm, said John Wester, an agent with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. Wester did not say when Ator failed the background check or why.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; godandcountrytroll; midland; nra; odessa; secondamendment; sethator; texas
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To: Neanderthal
"Not so sure about that. Both St. Skittles & the Gentle Giant were heavy weed users and may have been high at the time they stupidly attacked armed men."

Yep. And it's sometimes hard for someone who's blown away on pot and beer to say no to that crack or tweak.

Kids, THIS Is What Happens When You Do Crystal Meth
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=wYYYtxr1aJE

How many zombies lie when filling out those 4473s for background checks?

41 posted on 09/03/2019 1:11:19 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: familyop

Bump


42 posted on 09/03/2019 1:11:36 AM PDT by foreverfree
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To: familyop

Umm ... Pretty sure I read that he made multiple 911 calls which might have put the police on his tail and allowed them to pull him over for failing to signal a lane change?

Whatever went on I’ll take the 911 tapes for consideration regardless how our wonderful FIBs characterize his calls.

Public records. Get them before they’re erased automatically after 90 days - at least that’s the way the do things in parts of Florida.

In Texas who knows? Why is the FBI there? Federal crime to shoot anyone on an interstate highway? Where are the local LEOS?

Where are the newsies? Someone calls in a 911 fire report and its on the 6pm news.

We know his social media is gone? Too many questions, very few answers.


43 posted on 09/03/2019 1:35:53 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: familyop
Just like the others--drugs!

Shout it from the rooftops!

We didn't have such a preponderance of psycho killers until doctors began handing out psych meds like they were candy.

44 posted on 09/03/2019 1:58:15 AM PDT by Windflier (Torches and pitchforks ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing
ANOTHER mass shooter being a POT HEAD

Pot doesn't make people violent or crazy, but psych drugs most definitely do.

Yes, I'd like to see the toxicology report, as well. Guaran-damn-tee you, he was on psych drugs.

45 posted on 09/03/2019 2:01:06 AM PDT by Windflier (Torches and pitchforks ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: House Atreides

It was said early on that this scumbag called the local police and the FBI before this event started, were they sleeping at the time? no rush? what and see


46 posted on 09/03/2019 2:37:41 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (nicdip.com)
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To: Reno89519

He tried to legally buy a gun. That is when a check showed he was not eligible for the purchase to be completed. The FBI or ATF or DPS would not know if he later went out and illegally obtained a gun. Until of course it was used in a crime.

Now for law enforcement to do the job you think they are supposed to do would mean putting 24 hour surveillance on this or any other person who failed the required background check for firearm’s purchase. Any attempt to purchase a gun (legal source or illegal source) and immediate incarceration. No due process needed.

What I want to know is with his behavior spiraling down why did no one report he was a danger to himself or others? Is Texas one of those states where such a person can be involuntarily held at a mental health facility for 72 hours for observation and possible treatment?


47 posted on 09/03/2019 3:54:25 AM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: Windflier

A good friend of mine works in the criminally insane unit of our State hospital. They try to get them fit to stand trial

She was telling me yesterday that most of the ones in her unit did their dirty deeds when they went off their meds

My comment was, and she agreed, that for every one of them in custody, there are likely a thousand still walking around out there everyday, just a pill or 2 away from going off the deep end


48 posted on 09/03/2019 4:06:32 AM PDT by digger48
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To: Tacrolimus1mg
This leads me to believe that the gun was illegally obtained by a cash-only sale.

Since records of successful background checks are only kept for 24 hours by the NICS before being deleted, it's quite likely the firearm he had was legally purchased in the past before an event occurred that caused him to fail a subsequent check.

Failed background checks are kept indefinitely, though they aren’t kept in the NICS database indefinitely. The NICS logs those transactions and keeps a database of denied applications for a period of 10 years, after which it is transferred to an FBI database.

49 posted on 09/03/2019 4:25:46 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I'm in the cleaning business.......I launder money)
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To: BenLurkin
“Not all pot smokers are mass shooters, but are most mass shooters POT SMOKERS? Tucker Carlson seems to think so, too.”

For the Baby Boomers here, some explanation is in order.

God made the marijuana plant. God also made the plant contain a big long chemical called THC. That's what gets people high (including most boomers back in college days). God also got off the boat at about 7% THC.

There is something called by the same name today (marijuana) that has as much as 30% THC. How does it get there? Only the people that grow it know. They do all sorts of crazy things, from adding chemicals, to crazy stuff they do to the plants, to cause this increase.

What does this do to the product? How much of this stuff remains? Is it safe? Who the hell knows.

So to the boomers reading articles like this, you must remember - this is not your marijuana. This is some ‘creation’ containing who knows what, that does who knows what to people. Even in my college days, I wasn't really a big fan of the stuff - but I wouldn't touch the stuff today that is being passed off as marijuana with a ten foot pole.

50 posted on 09/03/2019 4:49:27 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name (no)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

Gun Control is not about making you safer.
It is about making politicians and bureaucrats safer. They have plans for you that they can’t implement while you can still shoot back.
BTW: Lefties like to weaponize things like psychiatry - as far they are concerned, you’re mentally for wanting to own a firearm or not going along with their plans for a perfect society.


51 posted on 09/03/2019 5:09:53 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: jmacusa; familyop
Oh for Christ sake you sound like the guy who wrote the script for “Reefer Madness.’’

_____

LOL ...... Harry Jacob Anslinger, alright. What a guy. /s

;-)

52 posted on 09/03/2019 5:22:43 AM PDT by a little elbow grease (... to err is human, to admit it divine ...)
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To: lastchance
With the complaints of violence already reported, the latest outbursts should have immediately led to a police visit to determine if there was an immediate risk and to offer help, maybe even commit for mental evaluation. Ignoring it all lead to multiple deaths.

The guy had problems, ongoing and increasing problems, he even called the police and FBI. Shame on them for not acting. And, yes, this is the "mental health" issue that we need to address, not new gun laws.

53 posted on 09/03/2019 5:52:42 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: jmacusa
But smoking weed doesn't make one angry and spoiling for a fight. It just doesn't work on the neuro system that way. Now booze, yeah, that'll get a person riled up.

So whenyou get stoned on weed, you eat a coupla cheeseburgers and pass out, and when you are out throwing down shots and beers you turn into Bruce Willis in 'Die Hard 276' an old man beating up on cripples in their wheel chairs and hospital gurneys.

But that's just you, it doesn't work the same for all the other 'neuro system bad boys' roaming around the hospital wards.

54 posted on 09/03/2019 5:56:53 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist mooselimb savages, today.)
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To: Tacrolimus1mg
>>Until they come out with why and when he failed a firearm background check<<

I've read all kinds of stuff from he was a meth head, two time felon and so forth.

His arrest record are misdemeanors. This would not have kept him from passing a background check in Texas unless it was recent convictions...then he'd have a waiting period before being qualified again.

I read the guy was associated with Antifa...anyone else read this sort of stuff?

55 posted on 09/03/2019 5:58:36 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: I cannot think of a name
>>Not all pot smokers are mass shooters, but are most mass shooters POT SMOKERS? Tucker Carlson seems to think so, too.”<<

This is pure poppycock. If it were true, we'd seen this phenomenon back in the 60’s when wide spread marijuana use came on to the scene.

Besides the legal drug alcohol...which incidentally has killed more Americans than all drugs COMBINED, marijuana is the most commonly used illegal drug and is largely benign as drugs go.

This guy was psychotic. This is more indicative of methamphetamine behavior or psychotropic drug use or sudden halt to the medication.

56 posted on 09/03/2019 6:04:48 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777

“we’d seen this phenomenon back in the 60’s when wide spread marijuana use came on to the scene”

I don’t think it was a problem when people threw some marijuana seeds in the ground and harvested the plants a couple of months later.

It’s a far different story when somebody soaks the seeds in some kind of paint solvent, and puts acetone in the water the plant grows in, all in the name of increasing the amount of THC in the leaves. I have no idea what that is, or what it might be doing to people.

In short, marijuana as God designed it is probably OK. The Frankenstein plants these modern growers create - nobody knows for sure what they may be doing to people.


57 posted on 09/03/2019 6:20:11 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name (no)
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To: familyop
Douchbag obtained AR from his drug pushing
gang bangers.
58 posted on 09/03/2019 6:47:53 AM PDT by wardamneagle
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To: I cannot think of a name

You got the wrong guy, man.

I didn’t say anything about weed.


59 posted on 09/03/2019 7:37:46 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

You are correct sir. I clicked on the wrong message.

Fingers too big.


60 posted on 09/03/2019 8:54:01 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name (no)
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