Posted on 08/30/2019 4:03:49 PM PDT by xxqqzz
The families of two teenagers who were shot and killed after allegedly trespassing outside a home in Dayton, Ohio, are demanding accountability. The homeowner admitted he shot Javier Harrison and Devin Henderson on Wednesday. Police said the teens may have been involved in drug activity on the property.
Police are trying to determine whether this is a case of justifiable self-defense. Jimmy Harrison, Javier Harrison's father, said the unidentified homeowner knew his son, but police haven't confirmed that.
"I want answers," Jimmy Harrison said.
Harrison said he feels like the shooting was premeditated.
"It wasn't in your house, it was in the garage," Harrison said. "You seeing some perps out there at your garage, you know, so my first instinct is call the police. I feel like he took the law into his own hands."
The homeowner told police he saw a light in his garage Wednesday and found three people sitting inside a car. Police said he fired his revolver multiple times, killing the two teens. The third person ran away but returned when police arrived.
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Suspicions are not evidence.
However, any statements you make can and will be used against you in a court of lsw.
Keep your mouth shut and call a criminal defense attorney. The law doesn’t care what the cops think, only what they can prove. Don’t do their job for them.
Enlighten me, I don’t understand your comment. I said someone else said it’s better to shoot into a dark garage and stay alive. You said it’s a small price to pay for personal safety. I said there is always retreat, and I’d rather keep my family members alive. My position is that there have been incidents where family members have been shot (and sometimes killed) because of shooting into a dark garage without knowing your target. In this news event, a light was on, which I did take account of in my comments regarding the event. Regardless, my response with you was in regards to knowing your target. Why is that stupid? (And yes, I have firearms and am diligent regarding safety around family.) Thanks.
That was so obviously sarcasm that only a functional retard would fail to recognize it.
Okay, that’s all I wanted to know. That’s why I asked if you were missing a sarcasm tag. The way some people post around here, you can’t tell if they don’t care about shooting their own family. That’s why I always include a tag if warranted.
I am going to answer with my name and address. I am going to produce identification if requested. I am going to be polite, slightly formal, and as calm as I can be under the circumstances.
Where things get dicey is when the Police ask "What happened here?".
If I am a participant in the event, that is time to start with the scripted answers, which very quickly evolve to "I cannot answer any more questions until I have a chance to speak with my Lawyer".
Before the Lawyer talk shuts down the conversation:
If there were any visible weapons brandished by the other parties, I will mention that feature. If the other parties made aggressive and threatening moves toward me, I will mention that feature. If I sustained any injury, I will mention that feature, and I will also request medical attention. If I know there are other witnesses who "saw the whole thing", I will mention that feature, and try to describe those witnesses.
I won't discuss anything else, no matter how justified I think I might be. After being repeatedly pressed by the Police, it is time to end the conversation by bringing up the Lawyer.
Yes I am well aware that:
"Your silence and your refusal to answer questions that an innocent person might reasonably answer can be used against you in court until you have been Mirandized, or you have unequivocally asserted your right to silence." (Andrew F. Branca - The Law of Self-Defense, 3rd edition, pp 150)
Which is why the Lawyer needs to come out early in the interview stages.
And then I will stop talking.
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“Police trying to determine if Ohio homeowner was justified in killing two teens”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3775628/posts
A man who is not well trained in shooting with instant reactions a la spec forces confronting three men with your gun out, if one of them pulls a gun from his waistband suddenly the move can freeze the defender for a split second allowing the bad guy to get off the first shot. That is how it is that store clerks often kill robbers who are already pointing guns at them. In such confrontations both parties dying is more likely than that the clerk alone will die. Most often the bad guy gets shot and the clerk does not.
Thanks - I had to look that one up.
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/when-how-invoke-your-right-silence.html
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