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Trump eyes cutting Ukraine aid -officials
Reuters by Yahoo ^ | August 30, 2019

Posted on 08/29/2019 9:13:25 PM PDT by NorseViking

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To: Cronos

Who do you think will prevail? And once again propaganda is fading and so is estrangement between Ukrainians and Russians.


21 posted on 08/30/2019 12:24:55 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: Rashputin

Do you think no kickbacks are involved?


22 posted on 08/30/2019 12:25:44 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

No one will prevail.

And I know plenty of Ukrainian people from Kiev and west. The resentment towards Russia is, if anything, growing. This estrangement will take generations


23 posted on 08/30/2019 1:04:01 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: NorseViking

No kickbacks to Trump and his people but plenty the crowd who baked the cookies, so to speak, that Victoria Nuland was handing out.


24 posted on 08/30/2019 1:27:59 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Cronos

I understand what you mean and expect more realistic outcome. Ukraine would be back with Russia but under less favorable conditions in a long run. It was a sort of Russia’s Canada and will be a sort of Russia’s Mexico it the future.


25 posted on 08/30/2019 1:29:56 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: Rashputin

Is Biden still there?


26 posted on 08/30/2019 2:08:50 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

Cut off all foreign aid to everyone.


27 posted on 08/30/2019 2:26:07 AM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: NorseViking

Junior was still there earlier this summer but I don’t know where he is at the moment.


28 posted on 08/30/2019 2:42:55 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: PGR88
Your point is well taken as to corruption. However, Ukraine has come a very long way in the last twenty years. Their starting point was as a much abused Russian satellite. Twenty years is a short time for the progress they’ve made. 🇺🇦
29 posted on 08/30/2019 3:28:58 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

Nice line. And you aren’t the only one who bought it. Some people are still blaming slavery for own corruption and in a very similar way.


30 posted on 08/30/2019 4:25:13 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking
They hate neither Russia nor Poland in Ukraine anymore.

Of course, hatred of Putin in Ukraine has grown, since he annexed Crimea and invaded Donbas in 2014 resulting in over 13,000 deaths.

A Ukrainian soldier has been killed in action (KIA) from targeted enemy shelling by Russia-occupation forces on Friday, the Defense Ministry said on its website

https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/610215.html

31 posted on 08/30/2019 5:35:51 AM PDT by tlozo
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To: tlozo

And what Crimeans think? If you are trading stocks and familiar with Elliott waves your chart is not that univocal. It might produce some unexpected moves to the right:)

Crimea is just a screaming example of the failure of ‘new Ukraine’. With organized crime and oligarchs booted out and a little rule of law introduced it is now flourishing and would have the economy the size of Ukraine in a decade max.


32 posted on 08/30/2019 5:46:39 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

So Putin acquired Crimea and lost Ukraine. Good deal?


33 posted on 08/30/2019 6:00:10 AM PDT by tlozo
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To: tlozo

An idea that Russia ‘owned’ Ukraine is bizarre.


34 posted on 08/30/2019 6:04:06 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

The US needs to cut all aid to everywhere. It never gets to the people and they all hate us so why bother.


35 posted on 08/30/2019 6:26:06 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Cronos

I didn’t want to be the one to say that :)

Agreed


36 posted on 08/30/2019 6:29:17 AM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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To: NorseViking
An idea that Russia ‘owned’ Ukraine is bizarre.

I wish Putin would understand that basic fact and stop the war against Ukraine.

MOSCOW (AP) — Russian President Vladimir Putin says he believes Russians and Ukrainians constitute one nation and that the countries should find a way to integrate.

https://www.seattletimes.com/entertainment/movies/putin-russians-ukrainians-are-one-people/

37 posted on 08/30/2019 6:33:21 AM PDT by tlozo
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To: tlozo

Putin can’t change certain facts and his foreign policy goes independently of his wishes the way Trump’s is.


38 posted on 08/30/2019 6:36:22 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

The west ukrainian people are not Russian culturally and will not rejoin


39 posted on 08/30/2019 7:15:58 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: Cronos

You are right but they are a really tiny part of Ukraine to be any relevant. They hate Poland no less. It is not representative at all.


40 posted on 08/30/2019 7:27:21 AM PDT by NorseViking
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