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New York Times Finds That All of Its Trump-Bashing Isn't Working as Planned
PJ Media ^ | 08/08/2019 | Stephen Kruiser

Posted on 08/08/2019 9:34:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Faithful readers of The New York Times were probably surprised on Wednesday when reading its political column "The Upshot" as it examined both President Trump's favorability and job approval ratings.

The column is titled "Don’t Assume Trump’s Approval Rating Can’t Climb Higher. It Already Has," and it provides some sobering analysis for the increasingly hostile Trump haters:

Donald J. Trump doesn’t always seem like a candidate focused on expanding his base of support. He may have done so anyway.

The share of Americans who say they have a favorable view of him has increased significantly since the 2016 election.

And over the last few months, some of the highest-quality public opinion polls, though not all, showed the president’s job approval rating — a different measure from personal favorability — had inched up to essentially match the highest level of his term.

It's not really necessary to chronicle just how awful the media coverage of the president has been during that time span.

"CHILDREN IN CAGES!"

"RACIST TWEETS!"

"RACIST RHETORIC MASS MURDER OR SOMETHING!"

And so on.

The Lunatic Left (which really is as nice as I can be when referring to them now) has been unloading on this president in ways we on the other side have been hoping they'd do regarding dictators and terrorists.

The leftists in this country are myopic and rarely exposed to people who don't agree with them. They truly believe that all of the hate spewed at President Trump by the MSM is received in the same manner that they receive it.

That myopia is leading to some miscalculations:

One common view of the 2020 election, for instance, takes 2016 as a starting point. It notes that Democrats fell just short of victory, and that therefore any number of changes — a better candidate, higher black turnout, and so on — would be enough to win the election in 2020. This way of thinking assumes that the president’s support would remain unchanged — that he could do little to match incremental increases in Democratic turnout or support, compared with 2016.

But it is not 2016 anymore. Millions of Americans who did not like the president in 2016 now say they do. Over all, his personal favorability rating has increased by about 10 percentage points among registered voters since Election Day 2016, to 44 percent from 34 percent, according to Upshot estimates.

My evidence is only anecdotal, but I truly have lost count of how many people I know who didn't vote for Trump in 2016 but have already made up their minds to do so in 2020. All cite the insanity of the Democrats and the media as the determining factor.

Of course, this column just examines the data, and doesn't take a deep dive into what might be driving it. That's a level of introspection that no one at the Times is ready for.

The penultimate paragraph of the column keeps the rough news coming for the Democrats:

Over all, 28 percent of Republican-leaning voters with an unfavorable view of Mr. Trump in 2016 had a favorable view of him by 2018, according to data from the Voter Study Group. The aggregate national data suggests that Mr. Trump has gained more support than that — if not from Republicans then perhaps from some number of independents or former Democrats.

As I only semi-sarcastically tweeted a few weeks ago, at the rate the Left is going, Trump may not even have to campaign to get reelected.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
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1 posted on 08/08/2019 9:34:34 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

News flash to the NYT...

Not everyone is as ignorant as your staff.


2 posted on 08/08/2019 9:36:36 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Dear Old Gray Lady,

“If you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em.”

Pssst, you can’t beat us.


3 posted on 08/08/2019 9:40:04 AM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim ( The following statement is false. The previous statement is true.)
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To: DoughtyOne

After awhile there’s a saturation point and people will tend to tune out the endless bashing of the president. Its so predictable and constant that the hyper partisan attacks become background noise.

Its kind of like crying wolf every minute.


4 posted on 08/08/2019 9:43:01 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: SeekAndFind
Millions of Americans who did not like the president in 2016 now say they do.

That's because he was an unknown quantity, politically in 2016. Now he has a record to run on, and it's a pretty good one.

5 posted on 08/08/2019 9:43:18 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: SeekAndFind
The Manhattan/LA/Big City group-think mental cage does not hem in the independent-minded populations across America.
"Almighty God hath created the mind free, and manifested His supreme will that free it shall remain by making it altogether insusceptible of restraint. [* * *] All attempts to influence it by temporal punishments or burthens, or by civil incapacitations, tend only to beget habits of hypocrisy and meanness, and are a departure from the plan of the Holy Author of our religion, who, being Lord both of body and mind, yet chose not to propagate it by coercions on either, as was in his Almighty power to do, but to exalt it by its influence on reason alone." -Thomas Jefferson, TITLE: Statute of Religious Freedom. EDITION: Washington ed. viii, 454. EDITION: Ford ed., ii, 237. PLACE: [none given] DATE: 1779

6 posted on 08/08/2019 9:44:13 AM PDT by loveliberty2 (`)
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To: eCSMaster

Dear Old Gray Lady,

“If you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em.”

*************

Reminds me of the famous taunt of the wrestling great Ric (Nature Boy) Flair:

“Whether you like it, or you don’t like it, learn to love it! It’s the best thing going today! Whooo!”

LOL


7 posted on 08/08/2019 9:48:12 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Starboard

I agree...


8 posted on 08/08/2019 9:48:39 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent.)
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To: SeekAndFind

All the Trump Bashing That’s Fit to Print


9 posted on 08/08/2019 9:49:11 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: DoughtyOne

News flash to the NYT...

Not everyone is as ignorant as your staff.

~~~

The dirty secret is that the NYT staff are there to feed the niche red meat.
At the top of the NYT pyramid they know exactly what they are doing; Trying to survive as a news publisher by cultivating what they project as the most loyal possible niche, political fanatics.

So the staff are in fact ignorant. They are true believers doing what they are meant to. They’re not going to win over any moderate independents with their hysterics. That’s not what they are really meant to do.


10 posted on 08/08/2019 9:49:40 AM PDT by z3n
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To: DoughtyOne
They are not ignorant. They are subversive, seditious, instigators who will lie,cheat, steal,and advocatea wholesale genocide in an effort to reshape this country into their perceived utopia.

NEver underestimate them.

11 posted on 08/08/2019 9:51:34 AM PDT by going hot (happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: DoughtyOne

I think there’s also a tendency for people to start to sympathize with the guy who is being ganged up on. They eventually see it as unfair and nasty.

The Left has no sense of moderation.


12 posted on 08/08/2019 9:51:52 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: z3n

I understand your argument, but if you’re killing your circulation and being ignored by most Americans, it seems it can’t be too well thought out.


13 posted on 08/08/2019 9:58:45 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent.)
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To: going hot

I understand your argument, but if you’re killing your circulation and being ignored by most Americans, it seems it can’t be too well thought out.


14 posted on 08/08/2019 9:59:03 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent.)
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To: Starboard

Yes, I believe you are right there.


15 posted on 08/08/2019 9:59:28 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump will get a further boost in popularity in September as IG reports and indictments demonstrate that the Obama administration broke the law to have US intel agencies spy on Trump and his campaign and spur the Russian hoax. Trump and Boris Johnson are also likely to put together a quick post-Brexit trade treaty that will boost them both. And with the economy roaring along and generating new jobs, Trump’s approval rating will have reason to continue to strengthen in the coming year.


16 posted on 08/08/2019 10:05:39 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Starboard

I think there’s also a tendency for people to start to sympathize with the guy who is being ganged up on. They eventually see it as unfair and nasty.
******************************************************************

Add to the above that:

PRESIDENT TRUMP IS DOING A GREAT JOB. MAGreatA.

He won me over!


17 posted on 08/08/2019 10:17:00 AM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: DoughtyOne

I would argue that they would argue that they are NOT killing their circulation.

My guess is that they have done some very in-depth market analysis which has told them that you’re going to sell more papers to a niche that is perhaps only 15% of the population which is loyal and rabid, rather than trying to appeal to some larger group but who are not highly motivated to read a paper or seek validation in print.

If you get twenty five percent of a niche that is only 15% of the populace, you are doing much better off than if you get three percent of 60% of the populace.

In other words; you can’t please all the people all the time. Just stay loyal to the ones who stay loyal to you.

... and again, the staff don’t need to know why you hired them. You don’t tell them that their job is to appeal to the left side of the left because it sells more, you only need to tell them that you support what they are doing.


18 posted on 08/08/2019 10:17:18 AM PDT by z3n
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To: SeekAndFind
…at the rate the Left is going, Trump may not even have to campaign to get reelected.

If they don’t find a better bunch of prospective candidates Trump may find himself running unopposed. lol

19 posted on 08/08/2019 10:20:33 AM PDT by immadashell (Save Innocent Lives - ban gun free zones)
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To: z3n

I understand your logic, but I’m not sure it holds up.

Check these stats out, regarding it’s circulation.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/273503/average-paid-weekday-circulation-of-the-new-york-times/


20 posted on 08/08/2019 10:21:35 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent.)
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