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To: SeekAndFind

Can’t totally disagree with this. No sense blaming OUR drug problem on China. We’ve never been able to solve it here, until we do, there will be a supplier somewhere.


3 posted on 08/04/2019 5:58:30 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (We are getting even more than we voted for.)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

Many years ago when the US was going through the motions (at least in public) of fighting the “War on Drugs” they spoke to Latin American representatives about dealing with their drug problem; they politely responded that the upheavals in their countries were caused by AMERICANS’ drug problems - and they were right.

A big problem with legalizing drugs, which is very obvious with alcohol, is the root of the reason WHY people take them. A sober/clean person will work on solutions, while the buzzed/stoned person simply retreats - and nothing gets done/fixed. Maybe a sweeping generalization, but definitely a lot of truth in it.

Pot (like alcohol) isn’t a “gateway drug” because a physical addiction leads to stronger stuff; it is a gateway drug because the causes that lead people to use it will generally lead them to something stronger.


4 posted on 08/04/2019 6:05:46 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

I agree with you. Blaming China for our “opioid crisis” is like an alcoholic blaming Budweiser for his drinking problem.


6 posted on 08/04/2019 6:07:47 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

Fentanyl is not coke. It is a synthetic drug and might be produced anywhere.


7 posted on 08/04/2019 6:10:13 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

“What the Chinese have effectively said is we should forget what they said just a few months ago. If they don’t like the trade situation, the fentanyl and related products will continue to flow,” he said.

Needs to be repeated.

A lot.


8 posted on 08/04/2019 6:10:14 AM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
US ‘only has itself to blame’

Yes. We didn't bomb the fentanyl factoriess in China already.

17 posted on 08/04/2019 6:22:38 AM PDT by arthurus (se 8xa o111--)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

BOTH sides are to blame.

The Addict is to blame for being weak enough to try, or even want to try, a hard drug.

But there’s lots of “potential addicts” out there who don’t try drugs, because they don’t get in contact with them ...

enter The Pusher, always there to exploit an opportunity and get another customer ...

And in 2019, The People’s Republic of China is the World’s Fentanyl Pusher, despite all their empty denials


22 posted on 08/04/2019 6:44:07 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

Taking Pain Meds away from Intractable Pain Patients who then will seek out Illicit drugs is not the way to do so either. Many tough it out, and end up dying of Heart Attacks and Suicides.

While you Enable Illicit drug users with clean needles, shoot up rooms with a Narcan monitor, Suboxone and Methadone, that Pain Patients don’t get. Nothing is done for their suffering except death. NSAIDS. Now 92% of Cancer patients are sent home on Tylenol, so are Mascetomy victims. As a Stage 3 Kidney and a Gastro patient I can tell you that much Tylenol or other NSAIDS will KILL you. Have Glucoma issues all those Steroids, Predisone, Cortisone and certain Antihystime and Asthma inhalers will cause your Eye Pressures to rise to unacceptable levels. 1 Predisone tablet will send your pressures to 23 or higher. Risking blindness. Most medical doctors are not even aware of these simple facts or chose to ignore them.

We may as well become our own doctors for the quality of care we get.

#1 Cancer, #2 Heart Attacks #3 Medical Malpractice causes of death in the US. Canada is higher as they don’t treat Terminal patients or can choose not to treat any condition that is complicated. Why try to be the best in your field when you get the same pay as the person who makes no real effort to get treatment right.


29 posted on 08/04/2019 7:03:52 AM PDT by GailA (Intractable pain, AKA as Intractable Pain Disease Medical Disease 24/7/365 pain for decades.)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

We do not have a drug problem. We have a nanny state problem. People should be free to use any drug they wish and then be required to live with the consequences of their actions without the rest is having to care for them.


38 posted on 08/04/2019 12:04:53 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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