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Secret texts cast light on UK's early role in Trump-Russia inquiry
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Posted on 07/30/2019 9:01:27 AM PDT by outpostinmass2

Two of the most senior intelligence officials in the US and UK privately shared concerns about “our strange situation” as the FBI launched its 2016 investigation into whether Donald Trump’s campaign was colluding with Russia, the Guardian has learned.

Text messages between Andrew McCabe, the deputy director of the FBI at the time, and Jeremy Fleming, his then counterpart at MI5, now the head of GCHQ, also reveal their mutual surprise at the result of the EU referendum, which some US officials regarded as a “wake-up call”, according to a person familiar with the matter.

While Russia had previously been viewed as a country that would seek to interfere in western elections, the Brexit vote was viewed by some within the FBI as a sign that Russian activities had possibly been successful, the person said.

Their exchanges offer new insights into the start of the FBI’s Russia investigation, and how British intelligence appears to have played a key role in the early stages.

In one exchange in August 2016, Fleming noted that members of the FBI and MI5 had “met on our strange situation”, a veiled reference to discussions about Russian activities, according to the source. The text messages between the two men were infrequent and cryptic and did not contain specific or sensitive materials, but occurred with some regularity after the referendum in June 2016.

A spokesperson for McCabe declined to comment.

The exchanges underscore a sensitive issue in the US – namely the role foreign intelligence services played in the FBI’s decision to initiate an investigation into the Trump campaign.

On 31 July 2016, the FBI opened a covert counterintelligence investigation codenamed “Crossfire Hurricane” into the then-presidential candidate’s possible collusion with Russia.

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Now Russia caused Brexit?
1 posted on 07/30/2019 9:01:27 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: outpostinmass2

Crossfire Hurricane, a silent coup from the sitting president and his agencies aimed at taking down the elected President


2 posted on 07/30/2019 9:04:38 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: outpostinmass2

OMG the Russians are under my bed and everywhere!


3 posted on 07/30/2019 9:06:25 AM PDT by calico_thompson (Vanity sarcasm)
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To: outpostinmass2

Because the Russians are opposed to the great good for the world that global government and untrammeled immigration will bring. /s


4 posted on 07/30/2019 9:10:41 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: outpostinmass2

And somehow the former Soviet Union was unable to get all this done??


5 posted on 07/30/2019 9:12:11 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: outpostinmass2

Are we to the point of having school kids hiding under their desks again?


6 posted on 07/30/2019 9:18:37 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (If you want a definition of "bullying" just watch the Democrats in the Senate)
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To: a fool in paradise

Note the attempt is made here to ascribe early activities to normal procedural activities. This will be the justification for the coup. It was all normal activities based on the Russians.
It is most curious that the party and individuals within that party who were most active in soliciting Russian support were the Obama administration and the Clinton campaign. Yet they were never investigated. Instead, a person and party for whom there was no suspicion whatever, and who was steadfastin his opposition to the interests of Russia, Trump and his Trump campaign, became the scapegoat for targeted investigations.


7 posted on 07/30/2019 9:19:43 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (The denial of the authority of God is the central plank of the Progressive movement.)
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To: outpostinmass2
When Boris Johnson, the UK foreign secretary at the time, was asked in November 2017 whether Russia had played any role in British elections, he told MPs in a select committee that he had not seen any evidence of such an occurrence.

When asked in a follow-up if Russia had sought to play a role, Johnson said: “I don’t know about sought to play, but as far as I know they played no role.” The new revelation comes as authorities in the UK are investigating the funding behind a pro-Brexit campaign, and whether it might have included illegal foreign donations. The National Crime Agency (NCA) is investigating the insurance executive and political donor Arron Banks, who was suspected by the UK’s Electoral Commission of not being the “true source” of £8m in funding to the Leave.EU campaign. The matter was referred to the NCA by the commission after it said it had “reasonable grounds” to suspect a number of criminal offences. Banks has said there was “no Russian money, no interference” behind the £8m he gave to the unofficial Brexit campaign.

So now they are going to do to Boris' associates what their counterparts are doing to Trump's...

8 posted on 07/30/2019 9:21:49 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: outpostinmass2; All

The key takeaway here is that members of the Obama admin conspired with British Intelligence to investigate (and prosecute) a sitting US President.

On a bogus “crime” with manufactured evidence.

That’s TREASON by definition for all US participants.

And an Act of War by the British against the United States.


9 posted on 07/30/2019 9:23:20 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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I wonder if this is to get ahead of the news..says British intel become aware of the “contacts” in late 2015..I doubt we only share info every 6 months....

July 31st is 7-8 months from “late 2015”


Britain’s spy agencies played a crucial role in alerting their counterparts in Washington to contacts between members of Trump’s campaign team and Russian intelligence operatives. GCHQ became aware in late 2015 of suspicious “interactions” between figures connected to Trump and known or suspected Russian agents, a source close to UK intelligence said. This intelligence was passed to the US as part of a routine exchange of information, they said.


10 posted on 07/30/2019 9:30:40 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: Cronos

ping


11 posted on 07/30/2019 9:32:09 AM PDT by SteveH (intentionally blank)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

ping


12 posted on 07/30/2019 9:33:07 AM PDT by SteveH (intentionally blank)
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To: outpostinmass2

I think it’s typical that ruling globalist elites would suspect external influences for domestic rejection of their policies instead of blaming their own governance.


13 posted on 07/30/2019 9:36:43 AM PDT by vigilence (Vigilence)
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To: piasa

Foreign donations were fine for hussein’s campaigns though.


14 posted on 07/30/2019 9:40:47 AM PDT by Eagles6
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To: ransomnote; bagster; bitt

ping


15 posted on 07/30/2019 9:54:08 AM PDT by SteveH (intentionally blank)
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To: outpostinmass2

MSN knows their house of cards is failing.
They need to point the finger elsewhere before MSN is implicated in Conspiracy to Obstruct.


16 posted on 07/30/2019 10:07:31 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: outpostinmass2
Brits can spy on Americans and our intel creeps skirted our laws by trading ‘information’ with Brits. Meaning for all practical purposes our intelligence is spying on us - giving the finger to our laws.

Guess that's where "Intelligence" started getting the GodComplex they thought gave them the right to undo an election and put in their chief thug Hillary. SHE would have given the criminals MORE power - MORE power for the compromised traitors..

17 posted on 07/30/2019 10:22:17 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrats created black hellholes in many of our beautiful cities. Shame on them.)
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To: SteveH

It wii take time for PM Johnson to clean house.
President Trump just the other day removed an Intelligence guy.


18 posted on 07/30/2019 10:25:17 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Congratulations to the USWNT on winning the World Cup! America is proud of you all!- President Trump)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Text messages between Andrew McCabe, the deputy director of the FBI at the time, and Jeremy Fleming, his then counterpart at MI5, now the head of GCHQ, also reveal their mutual surprise at the result of the EU referendum, which some US officials regarded as a “wake-up call”, according to a person familiar with the matter... the Brexit vote was viewed by some within the FBI as a sign that Russian activities had possibly been successful, the person said.

19 posted on 07/30/2019 10:32:41 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: janetjanet998

suspicious “interactions” between figures connected to Trump and known or suspected Russian agents (late 2015)


oh and how did they know there was suspicious interactions? Why did they care?


20 posted on 07/30/2019 10:33:25 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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