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Ted Cruz leads backlash after Tennessee gov signs proclamation honoring early KKK leader
Fox News ^ | Published July 12, 2019 Last Update 12 hrs ago | Vandana Rambaran

Posted on 07/13/2019 6:16:58 AM PDT by conservative98

Tennesse Gov. Bill Lee was under fire from Republicans and Democrats alike Friday after signing a proclamation designating Saturday, July 13 as Nathan Bedford Forrest Day, a state "day of special observance" honoring a Confederate general and early leader of the Klu Klux Klan.

"I signed the bill because the law requires that I do that and I haven’t looked at changing that law," Lee said Thursday according to reports by the Tennessean.

Senator Ted Cruz, R-Tx., took to Twitter to demand that the state "change the law."

"This is WRONG. Nathan Bedford Forrest was a Confederate general & a delegate to the 1868 Democratic Convention. He was also a slave trader & the 1st Grand Wizard of the KKK. Tennessee should not have an official day (tomorrow) honoring him," Cruz said.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Tennessee; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: billlee; cruz; cruzcontrol; cubanadian; fortpillowmassacre; nathanbedford; nathanbedfordforrest; tedcruz; tennessee; texas
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To: nathanbedford

Pinging you, as this may be of interest.


41 posted on 07/13/2019 7:21:00 AM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Donate monthly and end FReepathons.)
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To: IronJack

EXACTLY. Fly-specking historical icons will leave us with no history which is the left’s objective.

If Karl Marx was a slave trader, it would be no big deal.


42 posted on 07/13/2019 7:21:43 AM PDT by ZULU (Impeach John Roberts for corruption. SOROS IS "SPARTACUS" BOOKER'S LANISTA.)
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To: conservative98
Judging 19th century events by 21st century PC is proof "You can't fix stupid".
Way to go Ted,you moron.
43 posted on 07/13/2019 7:22:58 AM PDT by SanchoP
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Sherman, Sheridan, and Custer were worse than Forrest. Different demographic target which remained valid (because they fought back sporadically) yet took heavy losses and are still enslaved to this day. Shameful really.


44 posted on 07/13/2019 7:24:14 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: conservative98

I’m with Governor Lee on this; now who is the RINO? It is simply not any of Cruz’s business with his senatorial duties to be dictating policy to TN.


45 posted on 07/13/2019 7:30:58 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: NFHale

I wonder too if Cruz has even heard of Nathan Bedford Forrest, not a household name in TX.


46 posted on 07/13/2019 7:32:12 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Mr Rogers
“Forrest’s wholesale slaughter of troops (mostly black) at Fort Pillow tarred any national reputation he might have had forever.”

This was, and continues to be, in dispute.

Shortly after the battle, northern propaganda began the “massacre” theme.

After the war there were inquiries by federal authorities into the battle and claims that Forrest was a “war criminal.” Federal authorities certainly had the power to punish Forrest for any wrongdoing.

Either federal authorities couldn't find evidence that Forrest should be punished - or federal authorities decided to ignore the war crimes because . . . because why?

47 posted on 07/13/2019 7:34:45 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: jeffersondem

Because no southern jury would convict at that time???


48 posted on 07/13/2019 7:36:09 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.

“... heard of Nathan Bedford Forrest...”

Ted’s a brilliant guy; there’s zero doubt in my mind he knows who Forrest was. I like Cruz a lot, always did.

But being brilliant and having the sense to tell which Hill is worth fighting for, and seeing what the more immediate threat is, are two different things.

Nathan Bedford Forrest is long gone. He can cause no damage nor harm.

The dems are the enemy now; they’ve made themselves that way. They want to tear this country apart.


49 posted on 07/13/2019 7:37:40 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Sir_Humphrey
"And I for one would have no issue with his statue coming down."

I suggest that you read about him before you make open statements.

For instance, he had very little formal education, but became rich trading slaves. He was successful in selling slaves because he treated them well and only sold them to "good masters." By treating them well and selling them to good masters, the slaves knew that they were not going to be abused, so they didn't run and gave good service. So the new masters ended up getting good slaves. So the slave got a good master, the owner got a good slave and Forest got a good reputation; which ensured a premium for the sell of a slave. There are documented cases where Forest told a slave, "go walk around town and find your future owner." So the slave would walk around town and talk to the other slaves and find out who was a good master and was able to purchase a new slave. In some instances, the slave would interview for his future owner.

Make no mistake, Forest was a very harsh man. His troops did not "love him" but they very much respected him. His battles are still studied today, because he figured out how to set up a battle to maximize his combat power and minimize the Union combat power. Additionally, he was a master of the "follow up." If he succeeded in getting the other side to run, his forces were relentless in pursuit, even if the other size was much larger. He was so successful in the these two things that the opposing Union forces were always"certain" that Forest's forces were always much larger than they really were.

When I was in Iraq, I was surprised to find out that all of the officers in our coalition had studied at least one of Forest's battle (LtCols from UK, Australia, Poland, Ukraine, South Korea, etc... .). It became a joke- "Hey, I've run out things to say, so let's talk about Gen Forest's battle at.... ."

If we judge historical figures based upon current standards all will come up short.

50 posted on 07/13/2019 7:41:17 AM PDT by fini
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To: Sir_Humphrey
“And I for one would have no issue with his statue coming down.”

Are you speaking of slave-owner Nathan Bedford Forrest or slave-owner George Washington?

Or a U.S. President that dropped an atomic bomb on a city that included men, women and children?

All are quite controversial these days.

51 posted on 07/13/2019 7:50:57 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: IronJack

To Forrest’s credit, late in life he rejected racial violence and became a sincere public advocate for racial reconciliation. This led to denunciations of Forrest by his former Klan allies. I suggest though that whatever Forrest’s virtues may be, official commemoration of his life is no longer in order — if it ever was.


52 posted on 07/13/2019 7:51:31 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: for-q-clinton
“Nathan Bedford Forrest was a Democrat.”

So was Thomas Jefferson.

Now what?

53 posted on 07/13/2019 7:53:06 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: jeffersondem

...and Andrew Jackson

Cherry picking historical icons for disposal is swinging a double edged sword on a slippery slope.


54 posted on 07/13/2019 8:00:02 AM PDT by TADSLOS (You know why you can enjoy a day at the Zoo? Because walls work.)
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To: Theodore R.
“Because no southern jury would convict at that time???”

One supposed southern “war criminal” - Henry Wirz, commander of the Camp Sumter POW facility near Andersonville, Georgia - was tried and convicted by a military commission in Washington D.C. shortly after the war. He was killed by union authorities.

There is no reason to believe victorious union authorities did not have the same power over Forrest.

55 posted on 07/13/2019 8:13:26 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: jeffersondem

Jefferson’s political party:
Democratic-Republican


56 posted on 07/13/2019 8:15:07 AM PDT by conservative98
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To: jeffersondem

Yep. The democrats lost the civil war.


57 posted on 07/13/2019 8:15:41 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (This article needs a fact checked)
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To: deoetdoctrinae
The indignation of modern day American Talibans drives conservatives and those who have a decent respect for the realities of history back into an ever shrinking perimeter, a citadel of reason against Jacobinism.

The irony is that the fascism which today assumes the name progressivism or even socialism is on the march and the defenders of the center who are praying it will hold are evermore beleaguered, much as was Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest. That is not to equate the struggles rather to note the obvious irony and how slippery the righteousness of the self-righteous can be.

My thoughts from years ago.


58 posted on 07/13/2019 8:21:11 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: TADSLOS

“Cherry picking historical icons for disposal is swinging a double edged sword on a slippery slope.”

I agree.

And I’m worried that when Senator Cruz learns that Tennessee law requires that February 12 be a “day of special observance” for Abraham Lincoln that he will want that repealed too.

He will, no doubt, justify the snub of Lincoln because the Father of the Republican Party was at one time an infamous advocate of white supremacy - and authorized the largest mass execution of American Indians in history.


59 posted on 07/13/2019 8:31:05 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: poconopundit

No need to apologize. The shortcomings of Cruz are well known and have been discussed for years.

As to trust...the man lives in DC, works in a government building so trust is pretty much out the window. Loving our constitution, he still is willing to ignore when necessary.
Was a fan, a fan no longer but will give him a nod when deserving.


60 posted on 07/13/2019 8:32:37 AM PDT by V K Lee ("VICTORY FOR THE RIGHTEOUS IS JUDGMENT FOR THE WICKED")
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