Posted on 07/09/2019 11:05:52 PM PDT by knighthawk
In his last documented political act, self-made billionaire and two-time presidential candidate Ross Perot wrote out two checks to President Trump’s re-election campaign before succumbing to his battle with leukemia at the age of 89, according to a report.
Perot, who ran for president as a third-party candidate in 1992 and 1996, is largely credited with providing a road map for Trump's presidential campaign.
Like Trump, Perot ran as a billionaire populist against the Republican establishment. His focus on the North American Free Trade Agreement – rather than the national debt – and his use of cable news for laying out his agenda were both familiar elements of Trump’s campaign.
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Than Clinton.
Look, on one issue alone, the deliverance of ICBM MIRV and Gyro technology to China, made us 100% vulnerable to the Chinese nuclear threat.
China’s missiles were blowing up, until Clinton gave Loral Corporation the green light to gift it our tech.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3762896/posts?page=72#72
Also, there is this:
“The Man Who Supposedly Cost George H. W. Bush the Presidency”
http://www.pollingreport.com/hibbitts1202.htm
This article delves into the pre-election polling, as Perot entered, un-entered, and re-entered the race.
No, Perot gave us Clinton.
Good grief.
Did Clinton or GW close our borders?
The border issue is essentialy a wash. Do I agree with it? No. But nobody else was going to stop it.
Reagan gave us Sandra Day O’Connor. We all thought Roberts would be solid. You never really know what you’ll get when you appoint a judge to the SCOTUS.
For some reason some of them get in there and the weight of the issues causes them to make decisions in ways they never did before. I don’t know how you counter that.
Better vetting should be done, but how does a president do that? We could have agreed with Roberts.
The president doesn’t know that, or their career. He takes recommendations and hopes for the best.
There’s a good chance he didn’t trust Bush any more than he did Clinton. I still don’t, and the guy’s dead. :>)
Knowing what we know now, I wonder if any of the folks Reagan could have picked in those days would have continued his legacy on out.
Lets face it. We haven’t been able to get much going in Congress since. Newt was good for a while, but he melted down too.
Congress is a good ole boy’s (and girl’s) club, and they take care of themselves and their reelection.
How we keep putting back in place those who have us 22 trillion in debt is beyond me.
But let's say for sake of argument that 100% of Perot voters would have otherwise voted for Bush. That raises the question of why they all voted for an eccentric third party billionaire to begin with when other third party candidates are barely a statistical blip. The blame for this falls on Bush, not on Perot - if he were a halfway decent President and candidate, Perot would have been a statistical blip like the Libertarian or Constitution party candidates in previous or later elections. Bush and the GOP don't own our votes, they need to earn them. In contrast, Bush and his offspring just feel entitled to them.
As I recall, Perot made border enforcement a campaign issue (even though he didn't make it a centerpiece issue like Trump did), unlike Bush and Clinton. Furthermore, it was Bush who nearly doubled the quota for legal immigrants in 1990.
Immigration is far from the only issue where Bush aligned with liberals. If you and others think in terms of actual policies as opposed to party affiliations and rhetoric, you'd notice that Bush and Clinton had a lot more in common than either their fans or enemies would concede. Clinton wasn't that far left, especially on economic issues, and Bush wasn't much right of center. They were more or less on the same page on taxes and fiscal policy, on trade, on immigration, and on foreign policy. Perot offered voters an actual alternative on many of these.
1968 - worked on George Wallace campaign (too young to vote).
1972 - worked on John Schmitz campaign (still too young).
1976 - I voted for Tom Anderson (didn't stand a chance).
1980 - I voted for Ronald Reagan.
1984 - I voted for Ronald Reagan.
1988 - George HW Bush (should have voted for Alfred E. Neuman).
1992 - Ross Perot
1996 - Bob Dole (loved Jack Kemp).
2000 - W
2004 - W
2008 Sarah Palin
2012 - Mitt Romney and Nancy Ryan (I still feel so dirty).
2016 - TRUMP!!
I agree...
The guy took about a 15% hit when he went AWOL on his campaign.
That ended it for me.
I’m not say Bush was a great guy. I’m just saying that it was clear Ross didn’t have a prayer. It was over.
Clinton won with something like 43% of the vote.
Sorry, but Ross did more damage to third party politics than anyone I know of.
I think GHWB’s judicial appointments were better than Clintons.
You may be able to point out a few stinkers, but Clintons were all stinkers.
Bush’s refusal to enforce the new laws Reagan signed into being along with the amnesty, was essentially a betrayal of Reagan and the nation.
I still think there was a murder with people no more than one to two postitions from Clinton in on it, and his wife intimately involved.
She was given powers she was not fit to exercise. Here obtaining of over 1000 FBI files on people was just one of her antics. She also ordered her staff person to deny access to Foster’s office, and that same person carried out a number of items to keep them away from investigators.
She had a staff that was criminal in nature, so with Bill Clinton we not only got his sordid person, but we got the female Satan with him.
The damage these two did to our respect for the presidency was incalculable. He was still poking anything with two legs. Our youth were exposed to it in the media.
There were five or six legitimate scandals of a nature that could have taken Bill down. The Republicans charged him with minor offenses compared to what he had been up to, and then the Senate refused to try him.
I think Dole was in charge then. Voting for him made me feel unclean for years.
He was as bad as Mitch McConnell is today.
1968 - too young also
1972 - Nixon
1976 - Ford
1980 - Reagan
1984 - Reagan
1988 - Bush
1992 - Bush
1996 - Dole (Left me feeling like I needed to take a bath)
2000 - Pass (Post election I helped organize 50-300 men rallies in Westwood, CA, to prevent the election being stolen by Gore [four to five weekends])
2004 - Bush (Kerry, no way in hell...)
2008 - Pass
2012 - Romney (Not much better than voting for Dole)
2016 - Trump
That's known by someone as news & politically savvy as yourself, but the "average" voter in 1992 (without the Internet, without social media & w/o even Fox News), that really wasn't how they saw it because ABC/CBS/NBC/WaPo/NYT told them so...coupled with his broken "no new taxes" pledge, he took the hit on the economy. Had nothing to do with Perot.
As pointed out in those articles, the two largest states where Perot did best (TX & FL), Bush still took those Electoral College Votes.
The known data, for better or worse, just doesn't support the idea that Perot cost Bush Sr. re-election.
Bush Sr’s arrogance was a major turnoff, too. Having prevailed against Iraq, Bush’s popularity numbers shot up to record territory, such that he took his re-election to be a given. He made Schultz (?) his campaign manager after Schultz told him he didn’t want it. Schultz proceeded to run a re-election campaign that reflected Bush’s smugness.
His broken promise on taxes plus the L-shaped recovery cost him the election.
OMG!!!!
I can see some reasoning behind your comments, but I still don’t agree.
Thanks for the comments.
Fair enough FRiend. Have a good one.
You too.
Perot was in touch with the Clinton campaign. That causes me to wonder what the heck the guy was up to, if not just trying to be a thorn in Bush’s side.
It made be believe that all along he was just in it to help Clinton. Once it looked like he could take down Clinton too, he suffered the vapors, dropped out, and wasn’t a threat to Clinton again.
Interesting topic.
Take care.
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