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To: Trump20162020

I have known 3 people who were born with both sets of sex organs. A doctor told me they usually remove the male organs, as they are small and underdeveloped. These people can not reproduce anyway.

I know a gal who was born without a uterus. She couldn’t have children.

I know a gal who was born with two of everything. I think she had only one vagina but she had two uterus, four ovaries, etc. She had no problem having children.

Our granddaughter was born with one big upside down U shaped kidney. The left side was infected and not functioning. When they did the 9.5 hour surgery to removed the left side of the kidney, they found it was attached to the urethra, under the bladder. Should have been attached above the bladder.

She also had a tethered spine. The spinal cord is supposed to be able to move up and down inside the spinal column.

The way they found out, she was 2 and not sitting up or crawling, which normally happens at 6 months.

They didn’t have health insurance due to ObamaCare. His boss offered health insurance, for $2K a month. Plus deductible and co pay. He made only about $4k a month. Gross pay. They had to pay for house payment, food, utility, gas, etc. He checked around. Cook’s children’s hospital in Ft Worth took them as a charity case because they couldn’t qualify for Obama subsidized care, and couldn’t afford the insurance offered by his boss.

Before ObamaCare they HAD INSURANCE. We gave them $4K when the baby was born, at home. We gave them $10K for help with medical bills, they had accrued before Cook’s took them on. So he changed jobs and told his boss that the company had to pay 100% of his health care insurance.

There are so many individual problems out there. Not everyone is a pervert. Some people are born with birth defects and deficiencies.

No one “chooses” to be gay.

My husband says God must love gays, he sure makes a lot of them.


15 posted on 07/04/2019 10:07:13 AM PDT by buffyt ( It's not a choice, it is a child. FETUS means CHILD or OFFSPRING!!!!!)
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To: buffyt

Where do you live? I want to know because there must be something bad in the water there! I’ve managed to go 60 years without meeting anyone with mixed organs. They DO exist, and I have great sympathy for them, but they are very rare and not at the heart of the issue here.

And yes, there are certainly voluntary homosexuals, particularly now since being homosexual makes you “special”.


21 posted on 07/04/2019 10:12:29 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: buffyt
No one “chooses” to be gay.

No one? No one at all? An exponential increase in fill-in-the-blank sexuality over the past few years and you attribute it to the natural order of things? Lunacy.

28 posted on 07/04/2019 10:17:17 AM PDT by workerbee (America finally has an American president again.)
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To: buffyt

God must love liberal politicians...he sure makes a lot of them.../sarcasm!


30 posted on 07/04/2019 10:19:44 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: buffyt
No one “chooses” to be gay.

Except bisexuals.

35 posted on 07/04/2019 10:24:40 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: buffyt

Yeah Buffy- I’m sure God loves Gay people so much He creates lots of them in the old testament only to turn around and tell the society back then to put them to death for practicing abominations in His sight when they ‘couldn’t help it’ because ‘they don’t choose to be gay’

You sure have some really twisted beliefs there-

Citing a small example of natural defects does NOT mean gay people don’t choose to be gay- many many many gay people have repented of their sins and declared that it was their CHOICE to become gay- it wasn’t something they couldn’t help- it was something they chose because their hearts were full of sin and lust in their unsaved conditions-

There is no gay gene-


41 posted on 07/04/2019 10:29:11 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: buffyt

No one “chooses” to be gay.


I don’t know about that. A former student basically decided he was homosexual after deciding after dating several women, including getting very close to marriage, that women in general were just too much trouble. When he was younger, he was very interested in girls and his attractive women teachers.


44 posted on 07/04/2019 10:37:11 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: buffyt
No one “chooses” to be gay.

Define "gay." While no one may not choose to have a same-sex attraction, if they act on that attraction, then it is a choice. A married man might not choose to be attracted to his neighbor, but if he has an affair with her then it is his choice and he has committed adultery. One might not be able to control one's desire to have more money, but if he were to rob a bank then he has made a choice.

This conflagration of same-sex attraction and acts of sodomy under the single term "gay" is dishonest and a part of the strategy to advance the acceptance of the latter. I have the utmost sympathy for those who suffer with an unwanted same-sex attraction; but I condemn anyone who choses to indulge it and commits acts of sodomy.

As for "God must love gays, he sure makes a lot of them," we are all born with a corrupted human nature because of Original Sin. That we are born with some particular disorder does not give us justification to indulge in it. Additionally, there are studies that would point to childhood abuse or lack of connection with a parent as the major source of same-sex attraction, not a "gay gene" that causes it in someone.

46 posted on 07/04/2019 10:42:32 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: buffyt
I have known 3 people who were born with both sets of sex organs.

Sure you have, the odds of that are less then winning the lottery twice in a row. Typical liberal logic, just make crap up and claim it is prof of the point you are trying to make.
47 posted on 07/04/2019 10:44:44 AM PDT by JoSixChip (Trump stands alone.)
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To: buffyt

No one “chooses” to be gay.


Homosexuality is a BEHAVIOR. Not a condition as you describe.

Repeat HOMOSEXUALITY is a BEHAVIOR. The behavior is sticking a penis into a crap filled rectum. (pardon my French)

BEHAVIOUIRS are COMPLEX, meaning there is not just one cause and/or multiple things come together to cause the behavior.

Stealing,lying, drug use, etc are behaviors.

Some behaviors are not good for society and individuals.

ALL behaviors can be modified.


52 posted on 07/04/2019 10:54:02 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: buffyt

Nice liberal logic there with the serious category error.

Yes hermaphrodites exist. It’s a physical birth defect. Homosexuals have behavior problems. Feeling the urge to engage in misdirected reproductive behavior MAY not be a voluntary impulse however actually engaging in the behavior is.

God isn’t directing people to engage in destructive behavior. It’s called free will.


54 posted on 07/04/2019 10:57:32 AM PDT by Varda
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To: buffyt

“There are so many individual problems out there.”

Statistically speaking, it is amazing that you would have come in contact with so many cases. In 6.8 decades, I have never met a single such person.

“No one “chooses” to be gay.”

True. Same-sex attraction disorder (SSAD) results from the trauma of a homosexual rape, molestation, or seduction in the pre-adult years. You will never find a homosexual of whom this is not true, although many will lie about it.

“My husband says God must love gays, he sure makes a lot of them.”

God has made none. Everyone is born heterosexual. It is Satan who corrupts God’s work. Where there is sodomy, there also is Satan.


63 posted on 07/04/2019 11:16:45 AM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: buffyt

God makes pretty damn clear what He likes and what He doesn’t like.


65 posted on 07/04/2019 11:18:10 AM PDT by TalBlack (Damn right I'll "do something" you fat, balding son of a bitch!)
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To: buffyt

Homosexuality has nothing to do with the number of sexes.
Those born other than XX or XY have a legitimate claim to be considered something other than Male or Female.
So too, parts do not make sex. There are all kinds of birth anomalies.
Chromosomes define sex, until they don’t.
So . . .
Conflating, sex, gender and homosexuality in one post is problematic, to say the least.


69 posted on 07/04/2019 11:43:32 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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To: buffyt

No one “chooses” to be gay.

Xxxxxxxx

If a person has a Y chromosome, a penis, scrotum and normal sperm count what could make them gay other than choice?

Or a perverted seducer or rapist?

Sure doesn’t sound like God made them.


72 posted on 07/04/2019 12:11:47 PM PDT by amihow
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To: buffyt
My husband says God must love gays, he sure makes a lot of them.

It just seems like a lot because the media makes it appear they are everywhere. They are at most 1.8% of the population according to the most extensive study ever done on the subject, and about half of them were made "gay" as a consequence of being raped as children, but the media doesn't talk about that either.

78 posted on 07/04/2019 12:24:05 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no oither sovereignty.")
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To: buffyt

where on earth do these people live, inside a nuclear reactor?

Unusual to have some many.


87 posted on 07/04/2019 1:05:16 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: buffyt
No one “chooses” to be gay.

No - their mommies and pedophile family friends choose for them.

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94 posted on 07/04/2019 1:39:38 PM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (To become truly great, one has to stand with people, not above them - Montesquieu 1689-1775)
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To: buffyt

Why would God make a person who, by being a practicing homosexual, is in a perpetual state of sin? No loving God would do that to a person.

And the entire LBGT gang only makes up about 3% of the population so, no, there’s not a lot of them.


102 posted on 07/04/2019 2:17:11 PM PDT by Prince of Space (UNBORN LIVES MATTER!)
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To: buffyt

I’m sorry about your grandchild’s problems, and yes, there are occasionally born babies with ambiguous genitalia, but gays are not “born”, they’re made. Why a person develops an attraction to their own sex, is a result of many factors, such as upbringing, exposure to same-sex information verbally or visually, while sexual feelings are beginning to develop, many other factors, or just plain old fashioned sin. Sin is enticing, and crouches at the door. “It desires to have you, but you must rule over it”.


116 posted on 07/04/2019 6:33:36 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: buffyt

Gay is not genetic.

Nobody is born that way.

They choose it by letting the temptation to that sin define them.


122 posted on 07/05/2019 5:24:24 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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