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Led not into temptation: pope approves change to Lord's Prayer
guardian ^ | 6/76/2019 | harriet sherwood

Posted on 06/07/2019 7:12:21 AM PDT by RummyChick

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To: RummyChick

The King James Bible, the Bible of the great revivals of England and America still has it the way God intended it.


21 posted on 06/07/2019 7:49:05 AM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: RummyChick

“And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive our debtors.


22 posted on 06/07/2019 7:50:16 AM PDT by moovova
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To: rhombus10

Tatian had the King James text way before the 1611 edition was authorized.


23 posted on 06/07/2019 7:50:37 AM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: dinodino

>>>What’s the point of changing this?<<<

The Catholic church, and the fundamental churches all want to claim final authority over the Bible, instead of letting the Bible be the Final Authority over them.


24 posted on 06/07/2019 7:51:59 AM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: RummyChick

Francis the Argentine bishop doesn’t have the authority to rewrite Scripture. Period. Full stop. End of story.


25 posted on 06/07/2019 7:54:55 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: madison10

“The Lord does NOT really lead us into temptation”

If putting a beautiful fruit tree in the middle of the garden of Eden and saying “you can eat from anything except for this” wasn’t temptation, I don’t know what is. GOD set that up. God tests people all through the scriptures, even Jesus himself - His forty days in the wilderness. God may very well test people, but there is a way out (or a choice NOT to give in) as well.

God doesn’t seem to be much into this coddling, self-esteem protecting, participation trophy view of life being perpetrated these days. Life was very difficult in ancient times and it was dealt with as such.


26 posted on 06/07/2019 7:58:05 AM PDT by bluejean (I'm becoming a cranky old person. It really annoys me.)
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To: RummyChick

More awkward wording from people who cannot “hear” the words in English. Which flows from the mouth; which one sings to the ears? The new version does not change a darned thing...and yet it sounds “mumbly.”


27 posted on 06/07/2019 8:04:35 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If we get Medicare for all, will we have to show IDs for service?)
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To: Lazamataz

Then we’d be saying it in Aramaic. But I understand your point.


28 posted on 06/07/2019 8:04:59 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If we get Medicare for all, will we have to show IDs for service?)
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Is this post the Anti-Christ?


29 posted on 06/07/2019 8:15:25 AM PDT by Retvet (Retvet)
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To: Lazamataz
Right on -- and, bears repeating, Laz:

"Jesus Christ Himself gave us this prayer."

Furthermore, IIRC, Jesus, Himself prefaced it with this command:,

"Thus therefore shall you pray:"

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What human is so arrogant as to veto that commandment?

30 posted on 06/07/2019 8:17:58 AM PDT by TXnMA (Paraphrasing Adm. Farragut: "Damn the whines for 'impeachment'! Full speed ahead!")
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To: RummyChick

For some other "newish", aberrant (mis)translations of "The Lord's Prayer", check out this source:


       "Alternative Versions Of The Lord’s Prayer"

31 posted on 06/07/2019 8:18:09 AM PDT by Songcraft
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To: Lazamataz

I learned that prayer when I was barely out of the crib, and at NO TIME did I EVER think that it was saying God might lead me into temptation.

Like a typical Jesuit he thinks we’re all STOOOOPID.


32 posted on 06/07/2019 8:22:41 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: RummyChick

The word translated “temptation” really means “a trial” or a “testing”...in the sense that gold or silver is tested for purity. It’s proofed. We should be asking in prayer that we don’t need to be proofed or tested...that our Christian lives should be succeeding and that in order to do that keep Satan from us.


33 posted on 06/07/2019 8:27:25 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: RummyChick

Aww. The popester being publicly “cute” again, I see.

A caricature of his-selfness by now, means no faithful Catholic is even listening.

“Who is it that he’s serving?” has become a necessary question for us.


34 posted on 06/07/2019 8:39:35 AM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Schools/Academia are the Marxist Farm Team for more coming. Infinitum.)
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To: RummyChick

Like politicians...just plays with words...doesn’t seem to want to do his REAL job.


35 posted on 06/07/2019 8:40:45 AM PDT by goodnesswins (White Privilege EQUALS Self Control & working 50-80 hrs/wk for 40 years!)
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To: madison10

control and another little way to anger people.


36 posted on 06/07/2019 8:41:53 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Jess Kitting

“The Pope has no right to change scripture.”

It’s a translation - not scripture itself. He’s not changing the Greek nor is he attempting to.


37 posted on 06/07/2019 8:58:52 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: rhombus10

Exactly... The original texts have been translated many times over.... King James obviously was the most known in the english speaking world... but hardly was it the original text.


38 posted on 06/07/2019 9:02:42 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: RummyChick

I thought they were getting rid of “Father” too. They are going to do more damage INSIDE the church than the infidels on the outside!


39 posted on 06/07/2019 9:07:41 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (We are getting even more than we voted for.)
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To: RummyChick

He can go punt. I’ll say the prayer the way I was taught it 65 years ago.


40 posted on 06/07/2019 9:13:04 AM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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