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I can count on one hand how many times I’ve been on Conservapedia, which is not terribly helpful. I’m not sure to which point you are specifically replying to.

I read your point before how you believe he was not a far-leftist, yet his associations claim otherwise. He absolutely believed that big government and a heavy federal hand was the “savior” for Black folks. He went on Merv Griffin’s show in the 1960s, where he was oddly “handled” by Harry Belafonte, who IS a strident Communist (unapologetic Castroite & Chavezite), and said (during the interview) that Communism was a legitimate political ideology/opposition to America (rather than denouncing it).

We all know that leftists have a nasty habit of lying about their intentions (no wonder they make such common cause with Mohammadans), so trying to figure out why MLK Jr. did this or that and how he couldn’t possibly really be one when he said this, it’s very easy to figure out. He wasn’t being entirely truthful.

You are correct that Goldwater was better labeled a Libertarian rather than a Conservative (unfortunately, his wives were involved with Planned Barrenhood, so he was quite militantly pro-abortion. That nearly cost him reelection in 1980 to a pro-life Democrat and he lied to supporters that he would tone down his stances on abortion, which sadly set the stage for his drifting evermore leftward on social issues and developing a pathological hatred for Reagan. Had he retired in 1980 as he should’ve, we’d have gotten an authentic Conservative Republican Senator that year instead of ending up with the treasonous Derp State trash McQueeg in 1986).

But, going by the Goldwater of 1964 instead of 1980-onwards, the country would’ve been better off with him as President from 1965-1973. We’d have been spared the budget-busting and Black family destroying “Great Society” horror, not to mention the incompetently managed Vietnam fiasco (he would’ve either fought to win or got out). That would’ve done far more for Blacks than anything LBJ did, who wanted nothing more than to use them for pawns and re-enslave them to the Democrats and (in his infamous words, “Have those niggers voting Democrat for the next 200 years.”) MLK Jr. couldn’t run fast enough to see LBJ get a full four year term in 1964.

I was referring to the bit about MLK and his father regarding what I was replying to. I’ll even give you the link as well as quotes from the article:

https://www.conservapedia.com/Martin_Luther_King

“Vice President Richard Nixon invited King to Washington, D.C., for a meeting on 13 June 1957. This meeting, described by Bayard Rustin as a “summit conference,” marked national recognition of King’s role in the civil rights movement (Rustin, 13 June 1957). Seeking support for a voter registration initiative in the South, King appealed to Nixon to urge Republicans in Congress to pass the 1957 Civil Rights Act and to visit the South to express support for civil rights. Optimistic about Nixon’s commitment to improving race relations in the United States, King told Nixon, “How deeply grateful all people of goodwill are to you for your assiduous labor and dauntless courage in seeking to make the civil rights bill a reality.” “

“Political affiliation[edit]

Time and time again, liberals claim that MLK was a Democrat. Liberals point to the people he associated with or that he opposed Barry Goldwater as proof that MLK was a Democrat. There is considerable evidence that he was not a Democrat. Martin Luther King Sr. was a Republican, that would almost certainly make his son a Republican. Only after his son was arrested did King Sr. plead to President Kennedy for his safe release. It is noted at that point MLK Sr. switched parties to support Kennedy. This despite Kennedy voting against the 1957 Civil Rights Act and being initially opposed to the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. King. The March on Washington was organized by A. Phillip Randolph, who was a black Republican. In addition, Robert Kennedy allowed the FBI to wiretap MLK Jr’s phone on a trial basis due to suspicion that Dr. King’s associates were Communist; this was later expanded during Lyndon B. Johnson’s presidency; which undermined King.[12][13]

It was the Republicans who led the way to free the slaves nearly one-hundred years earlier, that fact was not lost on his generation. Frances Rice, chairman of the National Black Republican Association said, [he] “absolutely was a Republican,” and “We were all Republicans in those days. The Democrats were training fire hoses on us, siccing dogs on us.”[14] In the 1960s, King would have witnessed the Democrat parties position on pro-segregation, against the Civil Rights Act. King was most likely aware of high-profile Democrats such as Al Gore Sr. and the Exalted Cyclops Robert Byrd voting against repealing segregation. Southern Democrats rallied around Jim Crow laws and Black Codes which were targeted against King’s message. Dixiecrats blocked the social and political progress of black Southerners for decades. Was King unaware? Doubtful. It was Republican President Eisenhower who began the push for integrating all white schools and the desegregation of the military. To think King was a witness to all the upheaval Democrats caused and then became a champion of Democrats is a stretch. “

As far as leftists tending to lie, yeah, I know that (like how Alger Hiss denied Communist ties through his teeth when in reality he was one, or how about Ho Chi Minh’s claiming he wasn’t communist when he really was one. Not to mention Edward Murrow and Walter Cronkite’s actions). But here’s the thing, the entire point of lying by the left is to complete an objective for them such as advancing their cause first and foremost. And the biggest way to lie and advance Communist goals, is to claim Communism is supported by Christianity, and are common allies. To outright deny that they can be allies, and even explicitly state that their atheism cannot allow them to find common ground, outright destroys the entire point of promoting Communism. If I were a Communist and I saw a plant trying to state that, I’d very likely have that plant executed ASAP precisely because he singlehandedly ruined any progress to the goal of establishing Communism, no value to gain from the lie, short or long term. That’s EXACTLY why I don’t buy the idea that he’s a communist, even if he is a leftist, and even if he’s a liar. Why would you lie about Communism and Christianity having irreconcilable differences and condemning Communism for its atheism? There’s nothing to gain for the Communists to do that. If anything, Vladimir Putin’s claim that Christian tenants and Vladmir Lenin’s relics are closely tied together comes far closer to actually advancing the Communist cause. And make no mistake, I’m all too familiar with leftist lies, like Sartre’s denials that freedom of speech was threatened in the USSR, or Alger Hiss’s denials of being a communist before a grand jury.

And I agree with you on Goldwater, he would have done far more for blacks than LBJ would have.

This again?

Does pretending MLKJr was a Republican or conservative get us any votes? It doesn’t appear to, not that it hurts so if nincompoops want to keep doing it, whatever.

But the FACTS are

1)He was a leftwing nutter, period. If he were still alive he’d be doing BLM propaganda from his wheelchair. He was better than the Black panthers and other militants, that’s the only nice thing I can say about him.

2)He was moral trash who enjoyed nothing more than debauching White women. IF this stuff about him cheering on while his friend raped a woman is true then he was no better than a POS gangbanger.

3)He wasn’t even all that important a Civil Rights leader, he’d be viewed as much less important today if he hadn’t been martyred. Jesus Christ is only dude who got murdered that deserves to be worshiped.

4)If you want to say he was a drum major, say he was a drum major for performing oral sex on White women.