Gosnell’ and ‘Unplanned’ Have Changed The National Climate on Abortion…And The Media Is NOT Happy

https://society-reviews.com ^ | May 20, 2019

[JudyinCanada]

The thing that bothers me about the whole abortion debate is that it is treating unwanted pregnancies like the problem. They are merely a symptom on the problem. Save the babies is good, but it would be FAR better to follow the moral laws we are supposed to follow and don’t make any babies until married and able to raise them properly.

[Sarcasm Factory]

Personally, like a great many other socially conservative Americans, I'm not fanatical about abortion. For the most part, I prefer to cautiously stay out of sight and let the extremists on both sides do the yelling. But the hellish horror of Gosnell's killing chambers inevitably has induced sheer revulsion and shock in legions of formerly blasé Americans who had never thought much about this fundamentally divisive political issue. The two films mentioned desperately needed to be created and distributed. Simple truth is powerful.

Yes, the extremists on the "pro-life" side will continue to hysterically refuse to acknowledge any difference whatsoever between, say, a blobby zygote and what actually is a near-term, "unborn baby," but after decades of arrogant, heartless, creepy propaganda by the "pro-death" side and after the recent spate of truly terrifying laws and proposed laws in New York State, Virginia, and elsewhere, I have utterly nil interest in helping the pro-abortion propagandists. They wanted intolerant extremism, well, they've got intolerant extremism -- on the side of banning nearly all abortions. Ho, ho, ho, how do they like them apples?

Frankly, if Roe v. Wade is ultimately junked by a resurgent conservative bloc on the Supreme Court, I'll break out the popcorn and settle down to watch leftist heads explode like rotten cantaloupes all over the country. It'll be extremely entertaining in a grim way. :/

[lightman]

In most Orthodox Churches the upper portion of the apse is filled with the Playtera, the Icon of Mary the Theotokos (God-bearer).

Jesus, her Divine child is shown in utero yet sitting regally as though on a throne. Her arms are raised in a gesture of prayer and praise “My soul magnifies the Lord, and my spirit rejoices in God my savior” (Luke 1:46-47)

So it would be most appropriate to state that

The Orthodox Church is gynocentric.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Well thought, well said.

But how many people will spend even 10 minutes thinking through the scope of what we're dealing with here?

[Mrs. Don-o]

Sarc, I strongly agree with you that the Gosnell and Unplanned movies need to be shown everywhere, shown over and over again. The first step is seeing the reality.

But think this through with me. You say "the extremists on the "pro-life" side will continue to hysterically refuse to acknowledge any difference whatsoever between, say, a blobby zygote and what actually is a near-term, "unborn baby,"

Is that really true?

Nobody denies the difference in size, weight, tissues, organs and systems, between a new embryo that looks like a brine shrimp and a perinatal baby that's somersaulting, smiling, and could probably use a cell phone.

But the differences between different individuals' rump-to-crown length, bone mass or whatever, are not relevant to the question of intrinsic human dignity. We don't award the right to life by weight, or give big chubbaloobas extra respect for being jumbo size.

In the one fundamental thing --- the right to not be crushed, poisoned or dismembered, the right to simply go on living--- they are the same. The embryo in the uterus, the ethicist in the seminar room, the imbecile liberal comedian on TV, the President in the Oval Office, all have exactly the same status in this one respect, that as long as we live, no one has the right to make us dead.

And why? Because we're the same kind: humankind. WE are not to be slain.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Axios!

[TBP]

They’re progressives, so by definition they’re eugenics supporters. Therefore, any reduction n abortions undermines their racist agenda.

[Tammy8]

Another thing that has had a huge impact is the quality of the ultrasound pictures and how early they do them, depending on the doctor or health reasons. People proudly pass those ultrasound pictures around, post on social media- and it is impossible to look at them and believe you are not seeing a baby. The old “clump of cells” story just doesn’t work for anyone that isn’t already completely brainwashed.

[punknpuss]

Exactly! If abortion isn’t shocking enough for you then consider finishing off the “product of conception” (9 months!) after it dared to be born. I think that caught a lot of people by surprise and made them recoil in horror.

[Svartalfiar]

Frankly, if Roe v. Wade is ultimately junked by a resurgent conservative bloc on the Supreme Court

What will be very interesting, is that if the court does strike RvW based on the Alabama law, it's not going to necessarily return as a states' powers issue, AL is based on the fact than any unborn baby is a human being - starting with conception. Therefore, they are entitled to all the protections that a person has. This won't just return the choice to the States, this will (should) end elective abortions in America.

[CAGOPgramma]

Thank you, God !!!!!!!

[Cronos]

One thing I’ve noticed arguing and convincing pro-abortionists is to not bring the religious angle into it. As a Catholic I see abortion as a high sin and great evil.

but to lead with that closes off the pro-abortionists.

So I appeal to their humanity (they try to replace God with “humanitarianism”) - and abortion fails even that basic level - if as a society we can’t protect the innocent, then what are we?