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Boeing has FINALLY completed its software fix for the 737 MAX and insists it will be 'one of the ...
Daily Mail ^ | 16 May, 2019 | By Luke Kenton For Dailymail.com and Reuters

Posted on 05/17/2019 8:09:44 PM PDT by cba123

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Boeing has FINALLY completed its software fix for the 737 MAX and insists it will be 'one of the safest ever to fly' following two crashes in Ethiopia and Indonesia that killed over 300

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Boeing says it's completed a software update for its 737 MAX jets, which have been grounded worldwide since March after they were involved in two fatal crashes across a five-month period.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 737; 737max; boeing; faa
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To: cba123
You cant fix/coverup cheap mistakes with software.

With the 737 Max, the situation became critical. The engines on the original 737 had a fan diameter (that of the intake blades on the engine) of just 100 centimeters (40 inches); those planned for the 737 Max have 176 cm. That’s a centerline difference of well over 30 cm (a foot), and you couldn’t “ovalize” the intake enough to hang the new engines beneath the wing without scraping the ground. The solution was to extend the engine up and well in front of the wing. However, doing so also meant that the centerline of the engine’s thrust changed. Now, when the pilots applied power to the engine, the aircraft would have a significant propensity to “pitch up,” or raise its nose. The angle of attack is the angle between the wings and the airflow over the wings. Think of sticking your hand out of a car window on the highway. If your hand is level, you have a low angle of attack; if your hand is pitched up, you have a high angle of attack. When the angle of attack is great enough, the wing enters what’s called an aerodynamic stall. You can feel the same thing with your hand out the window: As you rotate your hand, your arm wants to move up like a wing more and more until you stall your hand, at which point your arm wants to flop down on the car door.

https://spectrum.ieee.org/aerospace/aviation/how-the-boeing-737-max-disaster-looks-to-a-software-developer

41 posted on 05/18/2019 4:30:41 AM PDT by x_plus_one ( Elvis has left the building.)
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To: Oscar in Batangas

WSJ reported the new engines were too heavy and too far forward for the airplane’s frame.


42 posted on 05/18/2019 5:01:52 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: cba123

43 posted on 05/18/2019 5:28:47 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: x_plus_one

If my brother in law wanted to strap a J-79 engine (the kind that was on the F-4 Phantom jet interceptor) to the top of his Cessna 172 to make it have a better rate of climb,

I doubt that any software change in the cockpit would make me want to get into that creature and take (blast?) off!

Boeing, take note before you reach the point of no return.


44 posted on 05/18/2019 5:40:23 AM PDT by Oscar in Batangas (latinum)
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To: jonrick46

No Atlanta Key?

I think it’s only the high, dry airports that are at big risk.

As long as you also don’t have a DEN key you’ll be fine.


45 posted on 05/18/2019 5:45:50 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: snoringbear

You think the airlines would cancel their orders for Boeing 737 Max 8, and if they do have them, return them to Boeing?


46 posted on 05/18/2019 6:00:31 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: cba123

This plane is a dog. Aside from the software issues.
Apparently underpowered. Can’t take off from high hot fields!
That means having to restrict where it can fly.
Summer afternoon in Denver, Mexico City?
Just like the old propeller days.
Sad. Really disappointed in Boeing.
The CEO needs to be fired without a penny compensation.
Bring back the best ever.. The 757.


47 posted on 05/18/2019 6:05:28 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: mabarker1

damn...


48 posted on 05/18/2019 7:37:09 AM PDT by Chode ( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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To: Chode

Interesting isn’t it?

IIRC there was a supposed Text from a Cellphone owned by a Passenger that was on MH370 that was reverse located via GPS matching with Diego Garcia...


49 posted on 05/18/2019 7:47:54 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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To: vette6387; Larry Lucido

LOL ! 727ski

Just gotta make sure that the Preflight checks the number of Bungee Cords and Duct Tape in the critical locations.


50 posted on 05/18/2019 8:02:49 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

“You think the airlines would cancel their orders for Boeing 737 Max 8, and if they do have them, return them to Boeing?”

Well, I think the consumer, flying public, will make the ultimate decision. If paying customers are willing to fly on the plane - and there’s no more incidents for a few years the plane may survive. But, if flyers refuse to book flights on this plane then it production will cease. The only plane that I can think of to use for guidance is the British Comet. After WWII the Brits were ahead of us in jet technology and were the first to introduce a jet powered passenger plane, the Comet. However, it soon had several crashes (thinking metal fatigue, not going to bother Googling). And, the plane was grounded and production discontinued for awhile till problems were corrected. Eventually, the Comet production was restarted and became a reliable plane and flew for several years. But, in the meantime Boeing introduced the 707 which totally dominated passenger jet travel. The Brits never recovered. Anyway, we shall see....


51 posted on 05/18/2019 8:13:58 AM PDT by snoringbear (,W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: mabarker1; vette6387

“Bungee cord” quite literally described the “overhead bin.” An elastic cord was all that was between your head and anything that might slide out from what you decided to place overhead. It was a Greyhound bus with wings. The seats flopped forward or back if you pulled a lever. Tray tables? Yeah, right. Someone did come by with a cart to sell you snacks or alcohol. I didn’t dare check out the restrooms. I heard they were just as bad as in the airport.


52 posted on 05/18/2019 8:25:47 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: cba123

The Max isn’t fixable unless and until the FAA forces Boeing to re-certify it as a unique type.


53 posted on 05/18/2019 11:29:44 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: Larry Lucido

DAMNED IT !!! I’ll pass, got My seat time as a Kid up till 9/12/01. If I can’t drive there then I don’t have to go. I refuse to be groped by the totally stupid a$$holes posing as Security, plus I’d end up Tazed, Cuffed & Locked up for grabbing a trash can and using it to beat the one that groped My Wife. Been to 49 States & Mexico back when it was a fun day trip from central Texas. Party on the way down, cross over and park in the Cadillac Bar for safe parking inside the Compound (We knew the Owners) Go to the Market for shopping and stock up on cheap$$$ Beer/Tequila/Kahlúa, back to the Caddy for lunch and ‘Ritas till dusk and start the trip home.

I have yet to get to Alaska but I can drive that. then I’ll have All 50 States done.

And there is no way I’d get on an AreoFlop Aircraft.


54 posted on 05/18/2019 11:45:44 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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To: Oscar in Batangas

ROTFLMAO!


55 posted on 05/19/2019 8:49:48 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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