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Boeing has FINALLY completed its software fix for the 737 MAX and insists it will be 'one of the ...
Daily Mail ^ | 16 May, 2019 | By Luke Kenton For Dailymail.com and Reuters

Posted on 05/17/2019 8:09:44 PM PDT by cba123

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Boeing has FINALLY completed its software fix for the 737 MAX and insists it will be 'one of the safest ever to fly' following two crashes in Ethiopia and Indonesia that killed over 300

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Boeing says it's completed a software update for its 737 MAX jets, which have been grounded worldwide since March after they were involved in two fatal crashes across a five-month period.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 737; 737max; boeing; faa
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To: cba123

Here’s hoping that in their rush to create a fix they haven’t introduced some other glitch as bad as, or worse than, the original.


21 posted on 05/17/2019 9:13:23 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: Oscar in Batangas

If you read it it has to be true.


22 posted on 05/17/2019 9:22:39 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Paladin2

Microsoft, the guys who now hide their endless fixes in bloatware called “Rollups”. It’s all good.


23 posted on 05/17/2019 9:33:08 PM PDT by bluejean (I'm becoming a cranky old person. It really annoys me.)
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To: Paladin2

So, like MS p, it will require weekly software updates.


24 posted on 05/17/2019 9:46:14 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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To: magna carta

I’ll think about going on one in 10 years if there is are no other crashes.


25 posted on 05/17/2019 10:05:03 PM PDT by CaptainK ('No collusion, no obstruction, he's a leaker')
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To: Oscar in Batangas
I read an (opinion)) article earlier today that claimed the original 737 airframe design could no longer cope with the size, power and range design considerations of the latest models.

I have read that Boeing was going for a total replacement for the 737 along the 787 design type and the final decision was to upgrade current 737 with larger and further forward engines causing more lift on take off and a software fix was put in to compensate for that by pitching down to prevent a stall situation and not knowing this mod caused pilot error.

All on Boeing

26 posted on 05/17/2019 10:08:05 PM PDT by X-FID (Trump 2020)
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To: magna carta

“I am grateful this plane will not yet be back in the skies until we are done with our vacation on Memorial Day. I have no interest in catching a 737MAX anywhere.”

I would most happily fly as a passenger on a 737 Max tomorrow with the old system so long as the crew has been properly trained on the system and know the crew knew how to recognize the failure in the old system and then fly the aircraft by hand and how to override the computer system.

It should be noted that all the crashes were third world airlines. Without doubt this same failure must have happened even more often in first world airlines and there were no crashes.

I suspect two causes for these two crashes. First cause is “perhaps” Boeing not giving proper training on the new computer driven system to the airlines and secondly probably inferior pilots on third world airlines. Not proper training on the system is a function of the airlines if they were given proper information from Boeing on the new system. Of this we do not know. What puzzles me is only one angle of attack indicator driving a critical system with no redundancy.


27 posted on 05/17/2019 10:09:51 PM PDT by cpdiii ( canecutter, deckhand, roughneck, geologist, pilot, pharmacist THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR)
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To: Vermont Lt

#6 If they pay the upgrade fee.


28 posted on 05/17/2019 10:10:46 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Oscar in Batangas

The Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System (MCAS) flight control law was designed and certified for the 737 MAX to enhance the pitch stability of the airplane – so that it feels and flies like other 737s. ... particularly at slow speeds and high angles of attack (AOA). https://airlinerwatch.com/how-mcas-system-of-boeing-737-max-works/


29 posted on 05/17/2019 10:21:38 PM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals crazy!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Thats already happened.


30 posted on 05/17/2019 10:23:48 PM PDT by airplaneguy
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To: Larry Lucido

Ah yes, the 727ski! But looks were deceiving.


31 posted on 05/17/2019 10:25:49 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: TexasGator

Not only that,

I read it on the INTERNET

So it has to be at least as Golden as:

“Trump colluded with Russia to steal the election from HilLIARy”


32 posted on 05/17/2019 10:26:01 PM PDT by Oscar in Batangas (12:01 PM 1/20/2017...The end of an error.)
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To: Oscar in Batangas; TexasGator

Not only did I read it on the INTERNET, but I read it on FReeRepublic even

So it must be PLATINUM

Flawed: Why the Boeing 737 Max Should Be Permanently Grounded

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3750101/posts


33 posted on 05/17/2019 10:34:38 PM PDT by Oscar in Batangas (latinum)
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To: Oscar in Batangas

The above referenced thread’s comments were reasonably divided between

1) The author’s an idiot and has no idea about what he’s talking and

2) Boeing may have ‘screwed the pooch’ big time this time.

That percentage of comfort/discomfort doesn’t do Boeing any favors


34 posted on 05/17/2019 10:48:04 PM PDT by Oscar in Batangas (latinum)
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To: mabarker1

So is this a Boeing or Honeywell created kludge?


35 posted on 05/17/2019 11:29:16 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Introducing the 2020 dimmacrat Presidential Candidate, Gropey Joe and his little friend Mr. Wiggles!)
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To: matthew fuller

Both as I read it PLUS DHSfbi sticking fingers in it. !!!


36 posted on 05/18/2019 12:03:42 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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To: Paladin2

My keyboard does’t have an “ATL” key anywhere. Does it mean my plane will crash if I don’t have it?


37 posted on 05/18/2019 1:13:44 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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To: cba123

I would still check any future flight i may take to see if its going to be a 737Max, if so I’ll change it.


38 posted on 05/18/2019 1:18:49 AM PDT by Daniel Ramsey (Thank YOU President Trump, finally we can do what America does best, to be the best)
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To: cba123

“I think this will now be the safest plane ever.
Ever.
It is just a shame it was (apparently) not 100% right to begin with.”

Umm, I doubt it. It’s my guess that the plane will be phased out, just sort of be allowed to disappear due to low demand. As I understand it the plane is fundamentally a flawed design that will not safely fly without its “fly by wire” software. Kinda like the stealth bomber aka flying wing which is impossible to fly without constant computer adjustments.


39 posted on 05/18/2019 2:55:33 AM PDT by snoringbear (,W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: cba123

Yes ... Good.

Now have the entire Boeing executive staff and their families take a round the world flight on one of their newly updated jet liners to prove everything is AOK.


40 posted on 05/18/2019 3:32:15 AM PDT by CapnJack
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