Posted on 04/28/2019 4:10:19 PM PDT by bitt
Those who participated in the 2015/2016 surveillance and spy operations, which evolved into the 2017 (through today) soft-coup effort, are relying on a defense that Russia hacked the 2016 election. This false narrative is how the corrupt administrative state will defend themselves.
Pay close attention to this interview and note how Senator Graham supports that narrative saying: the Russians hacked into John Podestas e-mails, the campaign manager for the Democratic candidate for President. The Russians hacked into Hillary Clintons e-mails, the candidate for the Democratic Party.
This Russia-hacking narrative is the DC chaff and countermeasures; when combined with their by-the-book justifications, it becomes their unified defense. Once you accept their baseline, it becomes much more difficult to expose their unlawful conduct.
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Lindsey is being black-mailed by the Deep State.
He has no Plan B so he obeys.
The DNC refused to turn over their server, so we don’t know who “hacked” into it. From what I’ve heard, Podesta fell for a phishing email, which allowed someone to get into his email. I haven’t seen any evidence that the Russians were behind that. Graham and everyone else should stop playing the dems/media game, and start pushing back on their “Russia did it” hoax.
Kind of similar to when Pelosi recently explained the wrap-up smear.
the swamp at it’s best.
“I havent seen any evidence that the Russians were behind that.”
I haven’t either, so I don’t believe it.
Shortly before the end of his term, Obama decided to let all federal intelligence agencies to share information. Eventually, it was concluded that all 14 (or however many there are) agreed that the Russians were the bad guys. It’s likely there was only one that the other agencies bought into.
I’m not saying the Russians aren’t bad guys. They are. But did they hack the Pedestal and DNC files? I’m skeptical without proof. It may very have been Seth Rich and/or others.
didn’t hear anything about an investigation into the coup that he talked about before. Bought off? Politics?
Blackmailed or never really changed from..
Graham is not the only one... there is more going on that wont be deterred.
Accusing hillary is dangerous.. they don’t hesitate to “retaliate” against a threat
He has to wonder how many depositions they have about Hastert like events.
Make that Podesta. Not my fault...auto-correct’s.
This “treefort” blog doesn’t own the dialogue. Why would you make it clickbait for this “sundress” chick, whoever that is? Just post the dang thing. Good grief.
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This Russia-hacking narrative is the DC chaff and countermeasures; when combined with their by-the-book justifications, it becomes their unified defense. Once you accept their baseline, it becomes much more difficult to expose their unlawful conduct.
[Transcript] MARGARET BRENNAN: We just heard about this tragic shooting. It was an AR-15-style semi-automatic weapon. Hate crimes seem to be on the rise
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: Right.
MARGARET BRENNAN: in this country. What do we need to do to combat this, prevent it?
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: Well, I think somebody interdicted the shooter, thank God, and it could have been worse, but in I think in California you cant buy a gun until youre twenty-one. So lets find out how this guy got the gun, what his motives were and Im a big supporter of protective orders, allowing local law enforcement to go to a judge if theres ample evidence somebody is becoming a danger to themselves or others. About fifteen states have such laws. Im trying to get a national grant program to incentivize states to pass laws to allow local law enforcement to go to judges to take guns out of hands of people that are showing really disturbing signs or danger signs. And I think in Parkland that would have made a big difference, here I dont know.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, well continue to follow the details as we learn more about what happened there, but I want to talk about what you are preparing for this week.
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: Right.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Attorney General Barr will be answering questions for the first time really in detail about the Mueller Report. I know youve said youre done with it.
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: Mm-Mm. Pretty much.
MARGARET BRENNAN: But what is it that youre going to try to focus in on with this hearing?
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: Well, he gave a four-page summary. Does the report support his summary? Does the report actually indicate there was no collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians? I think the idea that this President obstructed justice is absurd. He turned over a million documents to the special counsel. Almost everybody around him testified. I cant think of one thing that President Trump did to stop Mueller from doing his job. He never claimed executive privilege. From my point of view Ive heard all I need to really know. Now I want to look at it and find out how all this happened.
MARGARET BRENNAN: But on that point of attempting to obstruct justice or not
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: Mm-Hm.
MARGARET BRENNAN: the President seems to want to continue to litigate this because he came out this week and said
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: Yeah, yeah.
MARGARET BRENNAN: and denied that he had ever thought or told anyone
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: Yeah, right.
MARGARET BRENNAN: to fire Don McGahn, the White House counsel. But that directly contradicts sworn testimony
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: Yeah.
MARGARET BRENNAN: that was in the Mueller Report, where Don McGahn said he almost quit
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: Yeah.
MARGARET BRENNAN: he was so pressured to fire the special counsel.
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: Well, thats a
MARGARET BRENNAN: Who do you believe?
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: I I think its just all theater. It doesnt matter. I dont care what he said to Don McGahn. Its what he did. And the President never obstructed
MARGARET BRENNAN: It doesnt matter to you
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: Oh, God, no. I mean
MARGARET BRENNAN: that the President is changing a version of events that perhaps some would say, lying.
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: If youre going to if youre going to look at every President who pops off at his staff and, you know, ask him to do something thats maybe crazy, then we wont have any Presidents.
MARGARET BRENNAN: But in terms of the firing this was Don McGahn, the White House counsel, being pressured to fire the special counsel.
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: But he didnt.
MARGARET BRENNAN: But
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: And I dont care
MARGARET BRENNAN: But
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: I dont care what they talked about. He didnt do anything. The point is the President did not impede Mueller from doing his investigation.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And it doesnt
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: Case closed.
MARGARET BRENNAN: trouble you that the President is changing his version of events?
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: I dont I dont care what happened between him and Don McGahn. Heres what I care about. Did Mueller was Mueller allowed to do his job? And the answer is yes. Name one thing that they did to stop Mueller from doing his job, and if you cant then theres no obstruction.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Will you call McGahn to testify?
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: Not me? No. No, Im Im done.
MARGARET BRENNAN: What about the special counsel?
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: Im not going to re-litigate it. I dont know how clear I can be, Margaret. Its over for me. He didnt collude with the Russians, obstruction of justice in this situation is absurd. I fought hard as hell to make sure Mueller could do his job; I introduced legislation to make sure he couldnt be fired. Its over.
MARGARET BRENNAN: But in terms of this report it was not just the obstruction of justice that you seem to be saying youre over. All the details in here about Russia and what they tried to do, what they did succeed at doing in terms of
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: Thats a
MARGARET BRENNAN: accessing computer systems.
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: different conversation.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Isnt that worth
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: A hundred percent.
MARGARET BRENNAN: a a conversation? I mean, Senator Marco Rubio came out and said this week he went as far as to say that they had the ability; they were in a position to alter Florida voter rolls back in 2016.
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: I I think that thats the point. Theres two things Im going to look at: what did they do, and are they trying to do it again, and how do we stop them. I think thats something we all need to focus on. And how did this start. How could
MARGARET BRENNAN: Is the President focused on that enough, on that
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: Yeah. Hes got a good team around him
MARGARET BRENNAN: doing it again, the threat?
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: Yeah. No, hes got a good team around him to make sure we harden our infrastructure. But what Marco said was a bit stunning Ive never heard that before. So what I want to do is make sure that Intel and Judiciary and Homeland Security, the three committees are working together to harden the infrastructure against Russia or anybody else interfering in 2020. And Russia is still up to it. So the takeaway for me is that they were very involved in the 2016 election. Theyre coming at us again. Id like to stop them. And one way to stop them is to make them pay a price.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Youre talking about this with a level of seriousness that we did not hear from Jared Kushner, senior adviser to the President. I want to play for you some sound when he was speaking this week about the Russia probe when he said it was actually more damaging to have the Mueller investigation. Listen to what he said.
JARED KUSHNER (Tuesday/TIME): Quite frankly, the whole things just a big distraction for the country. And you look at, you know, what Russia didyou know, buying some Facebook ads to try to sow dissent and do it, and its a terrible thing. But I think the investigations, and and all of the the speculation thats happened for the last two years, has had a much harsher impact on our democracy than a couple of Facebook ads. Now if you look at the magnitude of what they did and what they accomplished I think the ensuing investigations have been way more harmful to our country.
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MARGARET BRENNAN: Is he minimizing the threat to national security?
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: Well, I like Jared a lot, but he is leaving out a big detail: the Russians hacked into John Podestas e-mails, the campaign manager for the Democratic candidate for President. The Russians hacked into Hillary Clintons e-mails, the candidate for the Democratic Party. Can you imagine what we would be saying if the Russians or the Iranians hacked into the presidential team of the Republican Party? So, no, this is a big deal. Its not just a few Facebook ads. They were very successful in pitting one American against the other during the 2016 campaign by manipulating social media and they actually got into the campaign e-mail system of the Democratic Party. An attack on one party should be an attack on all. The Russians are up to it again. And heres what I tell President Trump: Everything weve done with the Russians is not working. We need more sanctions not less.
MARGARET BRENNAN: More sanctions, now?
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: Now. Before 2020. Because, clearly, they dont have the message.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I also want to ask you about some of the remarks you have made in the past because we know as Democrats start talking about the details of the Mueller Report, combing through it and already calling for impeachment proceedings to begin against the President of the United States. Heres what you said back in January of 1999 when you were helping to lead the impeachment of President Clinton.
REPRESENTATIVE LINDSEY GRAHAM (January 16, 1999): The point I am trying to make is you dont even have to be convicted of a crime to lose your job in this constitutional republic, if this body determines that your conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in your role. Thank God you did that because impeachment is not about punishment. Impeachment is about cleansing the office. Impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the office.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Do you agree?
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: I was a lot younger.
MARGARET BRENNAN: But it sounds like some of what you are characterizing here, saying everything in the Mueller report, it may not be great but it doesnt reach the level of being able to prosecute.
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: Well a high crime
MARGARET BRENNAN: Thats different from what you described there, which was to say behavior of a President
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: Sure it does.
MARGARET BRENNAN: the cleansing of an office
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: Well it it-
MARGARET BRENNAN: is important.
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: Its got to be a higher crime a misdemeanor not defined by the prosecution team but by a political body called the House of Representatives approved by the Senate. So there was an article of impeachment against President Clinton for lying under oath about having sex with Monica Lewinsky. I voted against that because I believe a lot of people would lie to protect their family if they were blindsided about an affair. So I didnt want that to become a higher crime or misdemeanor. What President Clinton did was interfere in a lawsuit against him by Paula Jones and others; hide the evidence; encourage people to lie. So to me he took the legal system and turned it upside down. But it doesnt have to technically be a crime. What President Trump did here was completely cooperate in an investigation, a million documents, let everybody that the special counsel wanted to talk to be interviewed. Don McGahn was interviewed for thirty hours. I believe the President did nothing wrong. Whether you like him or not Ill leave that up to you but this
MARGARET BRENNAN: But even the pressuring Don McGahn
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: See but
MARGARET BRENNAN: to fire the special counsel. He may not have done it.
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: See that Okay, if youre going to let that be the standard of impeachment, that you have an interaction between a White House counsel and a president that that you find uncomfortable then well have nobody served. So heres the deal for me: you actually have to do something. Bill Clinton lost his law law license five years because he did something. But to my Democratic friends, if you agree with the 1999 statement I made
MARGARET BRENNAN: Mm-Hm.
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: you think this office needs to be cleansed, impeach him. Its up to you. If you think Donald Trump deserves to be impeached then impeach him. I dont.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Quickly, before you go, I want to ask you about your old friend Joe Biden
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: Yeah.
MARGARET BRENNAN: the vice president throwing his hat into the ring, President Trump seeming to suggest hes too old. What do you think?
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: Well, yeah, thats up to the voters to decide. I think President Trump is very vibrant. And I know Joe Joe Biden. If you travel with Joe Biden, you wont think hes too old. Heres the problem for Joe. Does he fit into the Democratic Party of 2020? I dont know; hes a good man. I like him a lot. I disagree with him on on policy. I hope he doesnt apologize for the life hes led because hes led a good life. But if he starts apologizing for all the policy positions and decisions hes made throughout his life that will be disappointing. I dont know how he fits in this party but I do know this:
MARGARET BRENNAN: Mm-Hm.
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: Hes a good man and he would be a strong candidate.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Senator Graham, thank you.
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: Thank you.
it seems as if the republicans are scared of MSM attacks if they bring up the guy in DC who got whacked for giving assange the thumb drive or whatever. that, or they are under deep state control in some dimensions.
Thanks for posting; Well see what takes place, but at this point the uniparty is a bunch of jerks in a circle playing games. Wed like to think better of our government, but now the circle jerks could pass a weapon playing Russian roulette until one is left. That lucky one we could throw in a SWAMP full of alligators and start over. Perhaps their replacements would get the message.
Not so sure Sundance is right on this.
Instead of “chaff/countermeasures” this may in fact be PRECISELY the way to get to the “gee, whiz, it looks like Podesta’s emails were not hacked after all and that they were leaked.” I wouldn’t find this an unusual path at all.
I’m not saying Mulehead was a good guy, but after all the smoke cleared, what remains: the FBI and DemoKKKrats tried to stage a coup, and that message is coming out louder and louder and now Barr has solid grounds that (politically speaking) he did NOT have before Mulehead’s report to investigate this.
Hillary’s FBI files still useful?
He should never be allowed near any computer more powerful than an Etch-a-Sketch ever again.
Graham doesn’t matter, Barr does.
Nothing in this article matters. Lindsey is a Senator, responsible for making laws, not enforcing them. Anyone expecting the Senate to attack the Executive Branch with anything more than political posturing are going to be disappointed. If Trump cannot apply his executive powers within his own branch of government, nothing will happen to those who executed this plot, PERIOD. Will anyone in the Executive step up? Is Bill Barr that man? Is Mike Pompeo that man? Will Gina Haspel or Christopher Wray suddenly see the injustice and investigate their own agencies? If not, nothing happens.
1. If there was nothing damaging, embarrassing, or that demonstrated manipulation of the Democratic primary process (including the provision of media questions to Hillary Clinton before a Presidential debate) in the emails that the Russians supposedly hacked, would that hacking have impacted the election in any meaningful way?
2. Do you support the behavior by Hillary, the DNC, and those assisting her campaign that was exposed in those emails, and if so, why did Debbie Wasserman-Schultz have to resign from her DNC position?
3. If Russian hackers, or Wikileaks etc, were to find details/communications that implicated Trump or his campaign staff or any high-ranking Republican in a scandal, and released those details/communications to the public, would you disregard that information because you didn't like the source it came from and how they accessed the information? If so, why did you give so much attention and credibility to the Steele Dossier, which has now been shown to have been funded by the Clinton campaign and to be false? Why did you give her a pass on this?
4. If Russian hackers, or Wikileaks, or some anonymous hackers from anywhere were to find evidence of a plot of terrorists to attack America and potentially kill thousands, would you condemn these hackers for making this material available to us to prevent an attack - because of the way they obtained the information? If your answer is no, why would that be acceptable to you but revealing information that the DNC was crooked and was manipulating the primary process in Clinton's favor was not? After all, manipulating the US voting process - as the DNC was doing, is potentially as damaging to the US as a terrorist attack.
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