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Trump should stop attacking and lying about McCain
Washington Examiner ^ | March 20, 2019 10:00 AM | Quin Hillyer

Posted on 03/21/2019 5:54:19 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

One can spend several days trying not to overreact to President Trump’s latest, unprovoked tweetstorm against the late Sen. John McCain R-Ariz., yet still conclude that there is something sick and twisted about Trump’s obsession with the singular American hero Trump disparages.

Tom Rogan already in these pages has eloquently explained why, fake heel spurs or no fake heel spurs, Trump could never be fit to wear McCain’s discarded shoes. And lawyer George Conway, husband of top Trump aide Kellyanne Conway, has presented a persuasive case that Trump’s fulminations about McCain and other bizarre eruptions are signs of a personality disorder.

What remains, though, is a reminder that on facts as well as fulminations, Trump’s flip-out against McCain is full of falsehoods.

First, as many others have noted, Trump repeatedly accused McCain of trying to spread the so-called “Steele dossier” as a way to block Trump’s election, but the undisputed evidence shows McCain didn’t even become aware of the dossier until after Election Day. (Plus, McCain did exactly what a senator should do when provided such material: He turned it over to the FBI, without prejudice. But that’s beside the point about Trump’s dishonesty.)

What has not been as adequately refuted is Trump’s allegation that McCain voted against a bill to “repeal and replace” Obamacare, and that McCain’s vote was a big surprise. Neither element of that story is true.

First, by the time a healthcare bill finally reached a vote in the Senate, it was in no way, shape or form a “repeal and replace” bill. In reality, it was a shell of a bill known as “skinny repeal,” which did next to nothing other than keep...

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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“McCain and Soros reportedly became friends after the senator was exposed as a member of the ‘Keating Five’ during the savings and loan (S&L) industry scandal during former President George H.W. Bush’s administration,” according to the report.” As the S&L bank chairman, Charles Keating paid $1.3 million to bribe five members of Congress to interfere with government regulators on behalf of the savings bank.”
The experience “so scarred McCain that he became a vigorous advocate of campaign finance reform” and in the process reportedly became friends with Soros, the report said.

https://www.worldtribune.com/the-mccain-soros-connection-it-started-after-senator-got-caught-in-keating-five-scandal/


181 posted on 03/21/2019 7:50:51 AM PDT by PLD
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To: Labyrinthos

All true about McCain but I don’t think it was just personal animosity. McCain has always been a uniparty shill and a tool of the deep State globalist agenda. And this was well before Trump came on the scene.

The biggest hatred of trump it’s because of what he is doing to change the world order and putting America first once again. McCain was a fabulous tool because he had the war hero badge and conservative cred so he could play both ends against each other. A truly slimy despicable human being and I will not get over it neither should Trump or anyone else no matter how long he decomposes


182 posted on 03/21/2019 7:50:54 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

You expressed your opinion, I gave reasons why I thought you were wrong and suggested that your approach was working against eliminating corruption, against educating & recruiting the slumbering, hypnotized populous.

I think that is the point, discussion, a sounding board where ideas are tested. Sorry if you feel attacked but it’s the ideas I take exception to not you.


183 posted on 03/21/2019 7:52:44 AM PDT by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance.)
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To: kabar

The funeral speech by his daughter was completely classless.


184 posted on 03/21/2019 7:54:10 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue
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To: TangledUpInBlue

McQueeg was not entitled to a state funeral. Trump granted it as a courtesy.


185 posted on 03/21/2019 7:54:53 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Capitalism produces EVERYTHING Socialists/Communists/Democratic-Socialists wish to "redistribute.")
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To: TangledUpInBlue

B***S*** Mccain was a 1st class POS. This Turd campaigned on getting rid of Obama care. If he had come out in support of Obama care Kelly Ward would have beat him. The night before the vote McCain told the vote counters he would vote for repeal. When the vote came up he voted against repeal. Then he went to Schumer and said “let him make America great now”.had the republican leadership known this ass was going to do this they could have got someone else to replace his vote. Mccain did not want them to do that.

As for the dossier he and his staff could not wait to get that to the media. With McCain’s name behind it the Fake dossier had some credibility. He did what he should have done is Bull shit. In place of going to the media he should have turned this over to the FBI and told them where it came from Fusion GPS and Steele and let it go at that.

As for a hero what for getting captured? That same war McCain was in was my war and One member on our family was killed in 1966 in that war and we have a remembrance hanging hanging on the on the wall. he was taking supply’s to fellow marines that need them. here is a list of POW’s Read up on what they did as a POW. I have yet to see any one of these say anything about McCain. He was flying below the floor against orders. When did not drop his ordnance. Cannot land on a carrier with ordnance it has to be dropped in the sea. Which mean he would have been ragged about it from other pilots? He went back for another pass which is a no no and was shot down.

Here is how he supported Vets

• 1.In 2006, McCain voted against a funding amendment (S. Amdt. 3704) to provide $20 million to the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) for health care facilities [source: U.S. Senate].
• 2.He voted against another 2006 amendment (S. Amdt. 3642) that provided the VA an additional $430 million in funding for outpatient care and treatment for veterans [source: U.S. Senate].
• 3.McCain voted against S. Amdt. 3007 in 2006, which would have provided an additional $1.5 billion in funding for veterans’ health care in FY 2007 by closing tax loopholes [source: U.S. Senate].
• 4.In 2005, he voted against an amendment to provide an additional $500 million for veterans’ mental health care for each year between 2006 and 2010 (S. Amdt. 2634) [source: U.S. Senate].
• 5.McCain voted for the successful passage of H.R. 2528 in 2005, which provided funding for veterans’ benefits and service for FY 2006 [source: U.S. Senate].
• 6.In 2005, he voted in favor of providing emergency funding for veterans’ services for FY 2005 (S. Amdt. 1129) [source: U.S. Senate].
• 7.He voted in favor of an amendment in 2004 (S. Amdt. 3409) proposing a guarantee of funding increases for veterans’ health care adjusted for inflation and population increases [source: U.S. Senate].
• 8.McCain voted no on an amendment S. Amdt. 2745 in 2004, which would have increased funding for veterans’ medical care by $1.8 billion by “eliminating abusive tax loopholes” [source: U.S. Senate].
• 9.McCain voted against an increase of $650 million for veterans’ medical care in 2001 (S. Amdt. 1218) [source: U.S. Senate].
• 10.Also in 2001, he voted in favor of a yearly increase of $1.718 billion in discretionary funding for veterans’ health care (S. Amdt. 269) [source: U.S. Senate].

More on how McCain supported the Vets

Regardless of McCain’s real war record (the U.S. government has sealed the record, so we will likely never know the truth about the matter), it is a fact that, as one of the most powerful senators in Washington, D.C., John McCain has done little to assist America’s veterans. In fact, McCain is commonly regarded as being one of the strongest opponents to the investigation and rescue of POWs left behind in Indochina following the Vietnam War.

While a member of the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs (1991-1993), McCain referred to POW/MIA family members and activists as “whiners,” “vultures,” and “the lunatic fringe.” Although the committee concluded that there were indeed American POWs left behind in Indochina, McCain voted to normalize relations with Vietnam without any accountability for America’s missing servicemen. In so doing, McCain ignored a letter written by fellow POW Captain Eugene “Red” McDaniel and co-signed by 50 former POWs which asked him to not support normalized relations with Vietnam until the POW issue had been resolved.

In 1996, McCain opposed the Missing Service Personnel Act (MSPA) as being “unnecessary” and “burdensome.” He also helped to amend the MSPA to remove criminal liability, which POW/MIA families knew was a serious blow to obtaining meaningful accountability on behalf their loved ones still languishing in Southeast Asia


186 posted on 03/21/2019 7:55:00 AM PDT by klsparrow
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To: over3Owithabrain

Trump is in the blood and the beer fighting for America. He is a street fighter, which is why he won. He fights like a Dem, which is why they fear him.


187 posted on 03/21/2019 7:56:15 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I didn’t “insult” you. I disagreed with you. Your response was to act like a liberal and accuse me of something I did not do.


188 posted on 03/21/2019 7:58:13 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Capitalism produces EVERYTHING Socialists/Communists/Democratic-Socialists wish to "redistribute.")
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To: JayGalt

Some opinion writer named Quin Hillyer wrote this article. He says he wants to state the facts, but he doesn’t have any. All he has is an opinion. It’s funny, guys like Hillyer write opinion pieces as fact and there is no way to respond. So I am responding to Hillyer here and now. Here is my opinion: McCain was a lying sack of crap. Went to his grave as a lying sack of crap. He would throw his own Mother over the side to get what he wanted. Not my kind of guy.


189 posted on 03/21/2019 7:59:51 AM PDT by abbastanza
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To: TangledUpInBlue
I don’t know about the lying, but he should shut his fat mouth about McCain. The guy is dead. It’s like the first lesson you learn - don’t speak ill about the dead or criticize someone who can’t defend themselves. All it does is bring his whiney daughter back into the media fold. It makes him look like a baby. This is one of my biggest complaints about him. He has no tact. He never rises above. The Presidency should sometimes BE above the fray. He has never mastered this. Whether intentional or not, I can’t stand it.

Well said. I wish Trump would bow out and let Pence run in 2020.

190 posted on 03/21/2019 7:59:54 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: TangledUpInBlue

And she was praised and lionized by the MSM for her remarks. She wears it like a badge of honor.


191 posted on 03/21/2019 8:00:13 AM PDT by kabar
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To: DoodleDawg

He said at the rally people keep asking him about McCain.


192 posted on 03/21/2019 8:00:30 AM PDT by conservative98
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To: humblegunner
Hobbits are little fat guys with hairy feet.

I wax my feet, sir.

#AintNoHobbot


193 posted on 03/21/2019 8:01:55 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: reaganaut1

Well that’s your opinion. Here’s mine. McCain was no good. Alive or dead.


194 posted on 03/21/2019 8:02:31 AM PDT by abbastanza
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Most of the nation hated McCain. Get your facts straight.


195 posted on 03/21/2019 8:03:29 AM PDT by dforest (Just shut up Obama. Maybe everyone should just shut up!)
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To: conservative98

And the tweets last weekend were in response to the report McCain pushed the fake dossier.


196 posted on 03/21/2019 8:06:08 AM PDT by conservative98
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To: dynoman

McCain would NEVER have even been at Annapolis if his grandfather & father hadn’t been well respected military men. He graduated 5th from the bottom of his graduating class. While I fully understand that there always will be a ‘5th from the bottom’ in any class, McCain barely squeaked by. His entire attitude seemed to be that ‘with his connections he could do anything’ & not be punished. Keep in mind that SOMEONE who would have done a much better academic showing WAS NOT in Annapolis because McCain got that seat.....Not a whole lot different from the current college scandals. Only it wasn’t money-—it was that McCain was riding his family coattails & he was an under performer all of his life.

McCain was a hot dog in his military planes, and didn’t always obey the orders of the aircraft carrier personnel, when he was signaled a ‘wave off’.

He caused a number of crashes & millions of dollars in lost planes & damages to the ships he was trying to land on.

He made a strafing run over Hanoi that he was told NOT to make, when all the others went back to the aircraft carrier.
That is what led to him getting ‘shot down’.

He spent his military life making his own decisions, against the orders of his Commanders.

He left behind his faithful wife who waited for him to come back home from the war, and dumped her for a wealthy heiress to a exclusive beer distributorship. That kind of funding got him support to get into politics.

He was a member of the KEATING 5, a group of politicians who scammed the Savings & Loan institutions in the USA, and caused a large number of people severe financial damage. He should have gone to jail for that alone.

He kept up his petty & vindictive life against many good members of Congress. Many of his Congressional votes have no explanation.

His over the top payback and subsequent actions against Trump are perfect examples of how HE thought HE was the correct GOP Presidential candidate & Trump shredded him.

He spoke many times about ending Obamacare, and when it was within his SINGLE VOTE to do so, he voted no.

He couldn’t keep a straight line of voting record on anything.

He NEVER should have been in Congress. Arizona needs to look harder at whom they are electing. His daughter isn’t old enough to grasp the effects of the damage he created in his lifetime. She is supporting a father-—but not a person who had an exemplary life.

IF the military had handed him a bill for all the equipment/planes he destroyed, not even his wealthy new wife could have paid off the bills.

McCain made a detailed list of his ‘funeral arrangements, and many countries wouldn’t have laid out so much for a KING. Multiple memorials in multiple places. Trump gave it all to him-—based upon McCain’s demands.

How much taxpayer $$$$$ was paid out for this? Millions of Americans did NOT support McCain, and most of them wouldn’t have given him the funeral of a police dog.

Trump is right-—McCain was NOT a very nice person.


197 posted on 03/21/2019 8:06:24 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: reaganaut1

You don’t know Pence. He was Governor here in Indiana. Nice man but he will allow himself to be operated by deep state.

Get over you hate or join the other side. Your RINO buddies will never win again.


198 posted on 03/21/2019 8:07:03 AM PDT by dforest (Just shut up Obama. Maybe everyone should just shut up!)
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To: reaganaut1
I wish Trump would bow out and let Pence run in 2020.

Whoa. Where'd YOU come from?


199 posted on 03/21/2019 8:07:28 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster
#AintNoHobbot

I call BS.

One of the central characters was Bilbo Bagster.

Re-read and think mirror.

200 posted on 03/21/2019 8:08:40 AM PDT by humblegunner
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