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Disputed N.S.A. Phone Program Is Shut Down, Aide Says
The New York Times ^ | March 4, 2019 | Charlie Savage

Posted on 03/05/2019 6:35:00 AM PST by BlackAdderess

The National Security Agency has quietly shut down a system that analyzes logs of Americans’ domestic calls and texts, according to a senior Republican congressional aide, halting a program that has touched off disputes about privacy and the rule of law since the Sept. 11 attacks.

The agency has not used the system in months, and the Trump administration might not ask Congress to renew its legal authority, which is set to expire at the end of the year, according to the aide, Luke Murry, the House minority leader’s national security adviser. “Technical irregularities” had contaminated the agency’s database with message logs it had no authority to collect.

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: bush; citizens; surveillance; us
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Good news, Trump is dismantling the part of the Bush overreach that resulted in Americans being surveilled. Reportedly this database never prevented a single terrorist attack and it was fraught with problems that resulted in collecting things it had no right to collect.
1 posted on 03/05/2019 6:35:00 AM PST by BlackAdderess
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To: BlackAdderess

If they shut that 1 down that just means they have a new undiscovered one already put in place!


2 posted on 03/05/2019 6:36:38 AM PST by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: Harpotoo

“I was just pretending to be retarded.” This one is right up there with “The checks in the mail.”


3 posted on 03/05/2019 6:39:18 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: BlackAdderess

And I have a bridge for sale.


4 posted on 03/05/2019 6:39:43 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.)
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To: BlackAdderess

Ridiculous.

They would only make this claim if they had another system producing the same effects —perhaps more efficiently, more accurately— with some slight technical twist.

The head of all this went up on Capitol Hill under the kleig lights and in a one-word answer point-blank denied that any of this ever happened.

NOT EVEN ARRESTED.

The leopard can’t change his spots.


5 posted on 03/05/2019 6:39:44 AM PST by gaijin
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To: BlackAdderess

6 posted on 03/05/2019 6:42:24 AM PST by ObozoMustGo2012 ("Be quiet... you are #fakenews!")
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To: BlackAdderess

They record everything, because they can. One day will be big scandal as som Senator or somesuch’s web browsing history is made public.


7 posted on 03/05/2019 6:43:38 AM PST by BusterDog
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To: BlackAdderess

“shut down” sure... LOL


8 posted on 03/05/2019 6:48:03 AM PST by TexasGunLover
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To: BusterDog

And that’s why we see the obvious kabuki theater re the Clintons/ Obama et al. They have damaging data on every member of congress or their families

Snowden revealed all this . Watch the movie with that title and it shows how they can data mine to get information to leverage anyone they want.

Hillary’s FBI files on mega steroids is the comparison


9 posted on 03/05/2019 6:48:21 AM PST by patriotspride
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To: BlackAdderess

The NSA has a very special parlance, much like different languages, different regional dialects.

What you think is “intercept” is NOT the same as how they all define it:

Let’s say you catch an electronic signal, characterize, classify and permanently archive it: that’s NOT intercept, per the NSA.

It’s only when it garners HUMAN handling that it garners that status, THEY SAY.

So elected people, people outside the NSA work culture and lexicon, ask the NSA about their activities using the intercept word and the NSA does answer, using that same word:

But only one guy in that interaction fully understands the misleading nature of the conversation; that the same word has completely different meanings in the two different work cultures.

It’s like GIFT meaning one thing in English but meaning poison in German.

They don’t view it as lying, they simply permit you to misunderstand.

When they catch the signals and store them, what does it mean? It means that at any future point, no matter how boring or innocent you are, if you become interesting to them they can go back and read everything you ever said from the beginning, of course.

And that’s what Binney meant when he referred to a system for Turn-key Dictatorship.


10 posted on 03/05/2019 6:50:03 AM PST by gaijin
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To: TexasGunLover

Just watch the parking lot at the Utah Data Center. It’s likely still full.


11 posted on 03/05/2019 7:00:06 AM PST by LibertyOh
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To: bgill

I’m pretty sure this is one the deep state used to track the Trump campaign around by exploiting the weaknesses that allowed them to break the law and track citizens.


12 posted on 03/05/2019 7:01:36 AM PST by BlackAdderess (Why did Bernie Sanders and Maxine Waters both vote against the Magnitsky Act?)
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To: BlackAdderess; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; ...

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The biggest killer of mankind

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

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13 posted on 03/05/2019 7:03:09 AM PST by null and void (If socialism is so grand, why are Guatemalans coming here instead of going to Venezuela?)
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To: gaijin

The intention here is probably to remove all evidence of Obama era abuses. The Deep State will start up a new program or already have.


14 posted on 03/05/2019 7:03:13 AM PST by lodi90
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To: gaijin

Remember all the unmaskings?


15 posted on 03/05/2019 7:04:13 AM PST by BlackAdderess (Why did Bernie Sanders and Maxine Waters both vote against the Magnitsky Act?)
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To: BlackAdderess

Oh sure it is! Wink, wink, nudge nudge.


16 posted on 03/05/2019 7:04:33 AM PST by Afterguard (Deplorable me!)
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To: patriotspride

I can only imagine what they have on chief justice Roberts!


17 posted on 03/05/2019 7:05:17 AM PST by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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They record everything, because they can. One day will be big scandal as some Republican Senator or somesuch’s web browsing history is made public.

Fixed.

18 posted on 03/05/2019 7:05:34 AM PST by null and void (If socialism is so grand, why are Guatemalans coming here instead of going to Venezuela?)
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To: null and void

Or so they say...........................


19 posted on 03/05/2019 7:06:09 AM PST by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: BlackAdderess

They don’t need it anymore, They now have 3rd party private contracted telecommunication carrier apps doing all this for them at twice the cost.


20 posted on 03/05/2019 7:07:10 AM PST by Openurmind
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