If they shut that 1 down that just means they have a new undiscovered one already put in place!
And I have a bridge for sale.
Ridiculous.
They would only make this claim if they had another system producing the same effects —perhaps more efficiently, more accurately— with some slight technical twist.
The head of all this went up on Capitol Hill under the kleig lights and in a one-word answer point-blank denied that any of this ever happened.
NOT EVEN ARRESTED.
The leopard can’t change his spots.
They record everything, because they can. One day will be big scandal as som Senator or somesuch’s web browsing history is made public.
“shut down” sure... LOL
The NSA has a very special parlance, much like different languages, different regional dialects.
What you think is “intercept” is NOT the same as how they all define it:
Let’s say you catch an electronic signal, characterize, classify and permanently archive it: that’s NOT intercept, per the NSA.
It’s only when it garners HUMAN handling that it garners that status, THEY SAY.
So elected people, people outside the NSA work culture and lexicon, ask the NSA about their activities using the intercept word and the NSA does answer, using that same word:
But only one guy in that interaction fully understands the misleading nature of the conversation; that the same word has completely different meanings in the two different work cultures.
It’s like GIFT meaning one thing in English but meaning poison in German.
They don’t view it as lying, they simply permit you to misunderstand.
When they catch the signals and store them, what does it mean? It means that at any future point, no matter how boring or innocent you are, if you become interesting to them they can go back and read everything you ever said from the beginning, of course.
And that’s what Binney meant when he referred to a system for Turn-key Dictatorship.
At no point in history has any government ever wanted its people to be defenseless for any good reason ~ nully's son
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Oh sure it is! Wink, wink, nudge nudge.
They don’t need it anymore, They now have 3rd party private contracted telecommunication carrier apps doing all this for them at twice the cost.
Some good news for a change.
Government eagerly seizes every opportunity to stick a probe up our XXX and repress us some more.
Shut this down, but do you want to bet that there is another program that’s alive and running?
Good. Finally!
I hope you realize that none of these programs ever goes away; STELLAR WIND is just an expansion of ECHELON and CARNIVORE. Does anyone remember TIA - Total Information Awareness, a DoD data-mining program, the objectionable elements of which were supposedly discontinued? Well, maybe not discontinued, but...
yeah, SURE it has
And we should believe them WHY, exactly?
I don’t believe it.
Without a warrant, law enforcement should have absolutely NO right to collect any information whatsoever other than interviewing witnesses or other basic police work. No listening, no reading, no decrypting of any US citizen without a -hopefully skeptical- judge giving the say-so, and even then only for a set time and to acquire specific information.
.....And we should believe what the NSA says because.....?
These things just shutter a few doors and go deeper. Usually. Back door assets keep them going.
Would love for him to shutter all of it - NSA, CIA and FBI.