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Trump plans to use $8 billion to fund border wall, source says
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-to-declare-national-emergency-to-fund-border-wall-source-says ^ | 2/14/19 | Fox News

Posted on 02/14/2019 8:29:36 PM PST by Blogger

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To: caww
What a stupid think to say.

Exactly. Even more stupid to do.

121 posted on 02/15/2019 8:21:42 AM PST by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: caww

They aren't stopping anyone either, even if they did what happens then? All they need to do now is kidnap/buy a child and come in and be released.

The President is being trashed by reporters right now, he is holding his own but the disrespect these clowns show is unbearable.

122 posted on 02/15/2019 8:30:18 AM PST by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
He should just fire them? HA HA HA HA

No he should just ignore them. They have no legal Authority in this issue and his advisors/controllers should know that even if freepers don't.

123 posted on 02/15/2019 8:33:42 AM PST by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
A comprehensive border wall is a solution.

I have never though the wall will solve the immigration problem because there are many avenues into this country. What happens to them after they get here is the problem. Most children born here last year are anchor babies how do we survive that? They do not grow up and vote Republican.

I purposely turned all news from cable or network off 4 days before the election and waited to hear if the Country had voted to survive or commit suicide. Suicide it was because either the Democrats figured out a way to steal the election or we had truly became a Socialist majority Country, neither of which can be overcome with ballots.

124 posted on 02/15/2019 8:48:41 AM PST by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: marajade
The bill only covers seven months of funding.

It is not so much what they are funding it is the poison pills that the bill is replete with.

125 posted on 02/15/2019 8:49:55 AM PST by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: GOPe Means Bend Over Spell Run

Last week Mitch was saying he would fight a National Emergency declaration. Now he’s on board. Perhaps Trump has to cut a deal.

If a bill passes by about 85%, it’s veto-proof.


126 posted on 02/15/2019 8:58:59 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: b4me

Do you want to elaborate with Specifics?


127 posted on 02/15/2019 9:02:31 AM PST by Trigger_Warning
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To: Theoria
Read entire article.

Yep, but they promised to fund the wall after the mid-terms right? Mitch said from the beginning that The President would not build the wall, most here forget that he said that. Most don't remember when Mitch said they must marginalize the Tea Party before they get her, but he did.

I hoped that some of the more aggressive congressmen would fight the speaker but none of them would challenge Ryan's leadership even though any one of them could have. Promises, promises, so many of them, no deeds, always more promises.

128 posted on 02/15/2019 9:06:37 AM PST by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: itsahoot

My dad did his fighter pilot service under Ike and Kennedy

We had a Goldwater yard sign in 1964

He carried my state like all the Deep South

Plus AZ


129 posted on 02/15/2019 9:07:09 AM PST by wardaddy (Progressive winter is coming.)
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To: MichaelCorleone

85% of the Senate voted for this. It takes 65% to override a veto.

In the House, 300 people voted for it. Once again, it’s a number that assures his veto would be overridden.

It’s pointless to veto.


130 posted on 02/15/2019 9:07:46 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: wardaddy
We had a Goldwater yard sign in 1964

I remember this meme after Goldwater was defeated. They said if I voted for Goldwater, the war in Vietnam would get worse, and sure enough it did.

131 posted on 02/15/2019 9:08:59 AM PST by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: itsahoot
The wall will not solve the problems. Trump needs dem support to get e-verify and cracking down on employers who hire illegals. The gop will not support such actions.
132 posted on 02/15/2019 9:17:32 AM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: morphing libertarian
To have standing, doesn't a party have to demonstrate harm?

Who is harmed by a border wall? Congress? How?

Are Democrat Representatives going to argue that they are harmed by the President exercising the power that Congress delegated to him?

Are border state governors going to argue that they are harmed by the stoppage of the flow of drugs and illegal aliens into their states?

Or are they going to fall on the reliable argument that butterflies and frogs are harmed by the wall because frogs can't get to the water and butterflies can't fly over the wall, even thought any one frog or butterfly has a lifespan of weeks anyway?

-PJ

133 posted on 02/15/2019 9:28:58 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: Blogger

All of the people on this and other threads who are so unhappy with this law that they are ready to give up and are condemning Trump are missing the big point:

The Perfect is the enemy of the Good.

Stated in nearly that exact form by no less than General George S. Patton, Jr.

Ronaldus Maximus advised people involved in politics that you NEVER get everything you want, not even close, so that if you get something you should take it and run. Later, you come back for more. If any of you would think about it, that is EXACTLY how our political enemies have come so close to wrecking our Republic...so why wouldn’t we use the same tactics (which are CLEARLY effective) against our enemies?

Besides, I think that Trump will win handily in 2020. Why?

1) Alexandria Occasional Cortex;
2) That Jew-hating Moslem bitch from Minnesota
3) Green New Deal
4) Chasing 25,000 jobs from NYC, gleefully
5) Abortion on demand, even AFTER a child is born
6) Nazi Pelosi and Chuck Schumer
7) The clown show that is the Dem Presidential contest.

So, folks, when Trump landslides the Leftist filth, he’ll bring back control of the House and they will HAVE to fully fund whatever hasn’t been built yet, because they will owe him.

But go ahead, vote for Lieawatha, Spartacus, the fake Hispanic Beta Male or Cameltoe Harris, fluffer to California pols - any of them would be better than Trump, right?


134 posted on 02/15/2019 9:45:19 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: itsahoot

the poison pills are only in effect for seven months


135 posted on 02/15/2019 9:51:38 AM PST by marajade (Skywalker)
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To: Ancesthntr
I'm not sure I understand what the "good" is in this bill. I'll need someone to clarify it for me.

I understood the bill to give President Trump $1.375 billion for the wall, but then there are all the poison-pill provisions to prevent him from spending it: can't spend it until September, can't spend it in parks, can't spend it without small-town mayor approval... Then after September when this bill expires, Trump has to start all over again with the next budget bill where Democrats may try to rescind this $1.375 billion of spending.

Furthermore, Democrats added deportation protections to anyone who is a "potential sponsor" of unaccompanied minors? Who isn't a "potential" sponsor?

So, I'd like to see from someone a list of what the "good" is that makes the "perfect" the enemy of it.

-PJ

136 posted on 02/15/2019 9:55:22 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: marajade

Why post such misinformation? The only element that appears to have a time limit on it like that is that no border wall construction, with funds from the bill or otherwise, are supposed to be applied toward building a wall while the corrupt local liberal pols are holding up approvals in their corridor.

The rest of the stuff? All the amnesties, etc., are permanent. And, likely even just the language around that delay in construction is what will be used to squash Trump’s claim of an emergency anyway.


137 posted on 02/15/2019 9:56:36 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

No they aren’t. It is in an appropriations bill that is only for seven months.


138 posted on 02/15/2019 10:04:30 AM PST by marajade (Skywalker)
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To: marajade

The amnesties are not for 7 months. Jeesh!


139 posted on 02/15/2019 10:06:02 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Political Junkie Too

Personally, knowing what I know about not only the poison pills but the usual outrageous spending that they added to this thing, I would veto it. However, neither you nor I know what Trump and his advisors know about it - and Trump knows that he MUST make progress on this issue or lose the 2020 election. IOW, he will FAIL - and DJT just doesn’t see himself as a failure at anything. I trust that he knows how he’s going to (or already has) outsmart the Dems, given that he’s been outsmarting opponents for about the last 45 years.

As far as spending only in September, don’t you think that building can start sooner, with a previously worked-out contract ready to be signed, and payments made, on 9/1/19? Seriously, we’re not dealing with a guy in the White House who is a novice at getting very complex deals done on time, if not ahead of schedule.


140 posted on 02/15/2019 10:06:49 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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