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1 posted on 02/11/2019 11:05:51 AM PST by george76
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...they didn’t pay attention to what happen in NY....


2 posted on 02/11/2019 11:07:25 AM PST by Doogle (( USAF.68-73....8th TFW Ubon Thailand....never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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Illinois loses the equivalent of the entire population of the town we live in every year.

Every single year. That’s the net number.

We will soon be among them.

L


4 posted on 02/11/2019 11:11:34 AM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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The debate over “the rich fleeing” is a false one. Its not about “the rich.”

America’s wealthiest people can go wherever they like, or like Jeff Bezos, buy political protection as needed

States like Illinois high taxes fall on the middle-class and workers. THEY pay all the high property taxes, sales taxes, payroll deductions, insurance schemes, gas taxes, license fees all foisted on us by leftist politicians looking to redistribute wealth through their own hands.


5 posted on 02/11/2019 11:12:24 AM PST by PGR88
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Problem is they create the same atmosphere wherever the move to.


6 posted on 02/11/2019 11:12:38 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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I think Illinois is in the worst shape of any state. New Jersey is a close second. If you live in Illinois, my advice is get out now. Sell your house. Sell your business or take another job. Do it before the excessive regulations and coming tidal wave of taxes crushes your business and causes a truly mass exodus. That will crush your home value too.

Illinois has chained itself to the Titanic after it hit the iceberg. Its going down. There is no way to avoid all the massive pension obligations to public sector labor unions. Those will never be cut until every last other resource has been exhausted trying to pay them. That means you. The politicians are coming directly for your wallet even more than they are now - and soon. Leave now with as much of your net worth still in your hands as you possibly can.


7 posted on 02/11/2019 11:12:56 AM PST by FLT-bird
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At least twice a month for the past 2 year I’ve had headhunters calling me to consider positions in CA, MA, NJ, NY, and Il. I tell them every time that I’m not interested in East/West Coast or the commie step-child of the Midwest because of taxes, cost of living, and over-regulation.

The usual reply I get is something along the lines of: ‘yeah, I’m hearing a lot of that’ or ‘yeah, the locals are looking to move out as well’.

I know businesses are moving as well, but I don’t think they’ve reached the rate that the people have. Eventually I don’t think they are going to have a choice if they want to find employees.


9 posted on 02/11/2019 11:15:35 AM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary that good men do nothing)
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saw this yesterday:

https://www.mystateline.com/news/illinois-lawmaker-files-bill-that-would-make-chicago-the-51st-state/1769769111

Chicago will never go for it because under the current bankruptcy code municipalities can file for bankruptcy, states cannot.


11 posted on 02/11/2019 11:16:27 AM PST by ameribbean expat (Socialism is like a nude beach - - sounds great til you actually get there. -- David Burge.)
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Which is why the Dems want to kill the Internal Combustion Engine [ICE] and Airplane travel...........so YOU CANNOT LEAVE!......................


12 posted on 02/11/2019 11:19:53 AM PST by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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They're talking about raising "income tax" on the "rich".

Wait until they start pushing a "wealth tax". That's where the real money is.

One Dem running for President is already doing that. E. Warren I believe it is. Her proposal is something like 2% for anything over 100 million.

But of course it wouldn't stay that low for long.

Over time it'd be half or more of the value of everything you own and three quarters of anything you leave as an inheritance. It's coming folks, almost certain.

19 posted on 02/11/2019 11:41:09 AM PST by Texan
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If you have the means to leave where you are being robbed, YA LEAVE.

It aint rocket surgery!

21 posted on 02/11/2019 11:51:01 AM PST by rawcatslyentist ("All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing")
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But, in Illinois it is the rich who are bashing the rich. what they are not telling you is that most of the high income areas are voting Democrat. Just look at who is Governor! Who runs the media, poor people? If the rich want to spend the money and run the state like this then why shouldn’t “the rich” pay the lion share of the taxes?


23 posted on 02/11/2019 12:16:01 PM PST by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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This is just one of many, many examples of high-income earners giving back. You don’t hear about it enough, though.

The government hates competition?

27 posted on 02/11/2019 12:20:30 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Modern feminism: ALL MEN BAD!!!)
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THIS crap . . . is why each state should have one legislative house apportioned equally county-by-county, rather than by one-man, one vote, and why the governor should be elected by an electoral college-style system on a county-by-county basis, rather than by a simple popularity contest.

In ILL-a-NOISE, you may still get a Democrat governor, but at least he would POSSIBLY be more moderate, since Shee-CAR-GO-Land wouldn’t be the only influence in town.

(Meanwhile, in Maryland, our popularity contest governor, Hogan, is perhaps the lousiest “Republican” ever to occupy the governor’s mansion.)


29 posted on 02/11/2019 12:27:41 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Modern feminism: ALL MEN BAD!!!)
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Illinoise will have to invade Indiana to seize assets. Socialism always runs out of someone else’s money.


31 posted on 02/11/2019 12:46:06 PM PST by School of Rational Thought
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Here’s part of the reason for the Chicago exodus; Will John Kass look into it ?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3724801/posts#6


34 posted on 02/11/2019 1:11:24 PM PST by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L,J,Keslin posting here for the record)
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This is just one of many, many examples of high-income earners giving back.
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Give ‘back’?? I’ve NEVER seen the ‘rich’ take from the ‘poor’, but sure do see the reverse.


36 posted on 02/11/2019 1:23:10 PM PST by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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Near the end of the Obama reign - there was legislation that was targeted ostensibly at Puerto Rico, seeking to amend the bankruptcy code to allow non-states to use Chapter 9 of bankruptcy. Right now, and at that time, only municipalities (sub-units of states) are able to access Chapter 9 (see Detroit.) While the focus was on opening the door to the territory of PR, the negotiation in the Senate and House were drifting in the direction of Democratic proposals to expand the definition of eligibility to include ambiguous terms that would allow a state to file and be a debtor in Chapter 9. That didn't happen, but I thought at the time it was happening as a favor to Obama on his way out of office - which would allow the State of Illinois to enter bankruptcy to modify the pension obligations. Didn't happen. Instead, an outboard process was created for Puerto Rico that was like Chapter 9 but only exercisable by PR, and not a state. You can bet that Obama wanted to throw a bone to his "home" state as a lame duck, but he couldn't get it done.

Illinois has the problem of having a state Constitutional provision that says, the pension and retirement benefits of public employees shall not be reduced. The legislature made unrealistically high assumption about the return on investments by the pension trust fund authorities, and failed to pay in enough tax revenue over the years so that there are only two ways out a) find a way to earn way above market returns with little or no risk, or b) jack up tax rates to fund dramatically higher contributions. It is the second approach that is driving folks out of the state. With no way to reduce payments to retirees, the only solution is to increase contributions from taxpayers.

Hence, folks gonna vote with they feetz!

37 posted on 02/11/2019 1:26:05 PM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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“Rich” also includes retirees living off their 401k proceeds and Social Security.


46 posted on 02/11/2019 5:14:45 PM PST by motor_racer (If you don't read the news, you are uninformed. If you read the news, you are misinformed.)
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Sort of off topic, but I’m so sick of this “giving back” crap. Liberals get away with twisting things into something that supports their ideology. It should be called just “giving” or “charity”. Giving back turns charity into an exercise in guilt and obligation. It really bugs me when they talk about rich athletes who were raised in dangerous ghettos that did nothing for them now “giving back”. They don’t owe those neighborhoods anything. They managed to get out alive and accomplish something.

Liberals destroy the language for their own ends. Socialists become progressives, illegal aliens become undocumented immigrants. Justice is not good enough. It has to be made into social and economic justice. Violence is gun violence. Why isn’t there hammer violence or fist violence? Homosexual becomes gay. How do they get away with this?


47 posted on 02/11/2019 5:17:22 PM PST by Pining_4_TX ("Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods." ~ H.L. Mencken)
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I avoid even driving through Illinois.


53 posted on 02/12/2019 5:39:09 AM PST by sailor76 (I'm still with Trump!)
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