Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Is Nathan Phillips Too Young to be a Vietnam Vet?
Granite Grok ^

Posted on 01/21/2019 6:13:32 AM PST by TigerClaws

I have seen two references as to the age of (Native American) Nathan Phillips, the professional protester who has once again stumbled into the limelight of racial politics. He was allegedly harassed by college students in 2015.

Several new stories say he is 64 years old and I have seen a 2000 article from an Omaha newspaper saying that he was 45 years old. So let’s say he is 64.

Most stories about Nathan refer to him as a Viet Nam vet. Several refer to him as a Marine. I am 66 years old and know personally, of no one my age who went to Viet Nam. Several friends joined the various services right after graduation – 1972.

Here is one of the hundreds of articles about the protester confronting the boys from Covington Catholic High School. The Journal Star has apparently not seen the video of Phillips confronting the students (below).

I checked some sources about the last combat troops in Viet Nam. Here is one a person has put his name to. It has details.

Steven,

Thanks for taking the time to ask this!

The question asked when the last US ground combat troops left Vietnam. We gave the correct answer, ie 1972. The last American combat unit was a task force from the 3d Bn, 21st Inf Regt and battery B, 3d Bn, 82d Field Artillery Regt which had been stationed in Danang (I commanded battery C, 3d Bn, 82d FA and B btry was our ‘sister’ battalion). These were the last US ground combat units in Vietnam, and I was there when they left in August of 1972. As a matter of fact, when my unit disbanded in June 1972, we sent B Btry about 15 of our guys who stayed with B Btry until it left in August. Of note: these C btry guys took along a US flag that had flown over my firebase and put it up over the B Btry firebase where it flew until the task force departed in Aug 72. Therefore, the last American flag to fly over a US firebase in Vietnam was mine.

Some American troops (no combat troops) were still in Vietnam until they left in 1973.

Thanks again for the question.

Jerry Morelock Armchair General Senior Historian

Being a Viet Nam era guy who had a draft number pulled, I began to notice guys much younger than me claim to be Viet Nam vets. Some would have had to be 15 or 16.

At 64 years old now, Nathan Phillips would have possibly been 17 years old when the last US combat troops were leaving that country. He should point that out to a reporter.

Nathan Phillips likes to talk about politics and race. How about some journalist finally asks him about his service in Marine Corps duty in Viet Nam?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: americanindians; danceswithantifa; nathanphillips; vietnamvets
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 121-140 next last
To: TigerClaws

The news stations in Austin, TX are still spreading the demonrat lies about what happened. What else do you expect from that uber lib hell hole?


21 posted on 01/21/2019 6:27:59 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.S)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TigerClaws
The media never seem to fact-check things they want to be true. The bar for proving malice is set very high. I believe this incident has cleared that bar.

President Trump needs to let all Americans know about this media stunt, as the media themselves surely will not. I hope this causes a sea change in how Americans view the media, and I hope it's not pretty...

22 posted on 01/21/2019 6:31:51 AM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: adorno

My friend is 62 and when he was 17 the Vietnam war was over.


23 posted on 01/21/2019 6:34:47 AM PST by subterfuge (RIP T.P.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: bort; All

https://www.archives.gov/personnel-records-center/foia-info

The Freedom of Information Act (FOIA)

The Freedom of Information Act, or FOIA (5 U.S.C. 552, as amended), generally provides any person with the statutory right, enforceable in court, to obtain access to Government information in executive branch agency records. This right to access is limited when such information is protected from disclosure by one of FOIA’s nine statutory exemptions. Click for more information on the Provisions of the Freedom of Information Act.

FOIA and Official Military Personnel Files (OMPF)

The public has access to certain military service information without the veteran’s authorization or that of the next-of-kin (the un-remarried widow or widower, son, daughter, father, mother, brother or sister) of deceased veterans. Examples of information which may be available from Federal (non-archival) Official Military Personnel Files (OMPF) without an unwarranted invasion of privacy include:

Name

Service Number

Dates of Service

Branch of Service

Final Duty Status

Final Rank

Salary *

Assignments and Geographical Locations

Source of Commission *

Military Education Level

Promotion Sequence Number *

Awards and decorations (eligibility only, not actual medals)

Photograph

Transcript of Courts-Martial Trials

Place of entrance and separation


24 posted on 01/21/2019 6:36:19 AM PST by TigerClaws
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: TigerClaws

If Nathan Phillips (aka “Dances with Soros”) ever went to Nam it was most likely with Jane Fonda.


25 posted on 01/21/2019 6:39:10 AM PST by Beagle8U (Beto went to Liz Warren's genealogist to prove that he was 1/1000 Hispanic.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TigerClaws

The last battle of Vietnam was the Mayaguez Incident that occurred in May, 1975. 15 Marines were killed in action and another 23 were killed in an aircraft accident. Those Marines are the last names on the Vietnam Memorial. In addition, a Marine Detachment at the Embassy remained until we evacuated. We also had other advisors and other personnel until we evacuated and some remained after Vietnam fell working on the Paris agreements.

You are correct about the date of when the last combat troops left and the Gimlets task force was that unit. I don’t couldn’t tell this guy from Crazy Horse, but if he claims to be either a Vietnam Vet or a Vietnam era veteran like Senator Blumenthal, the Marine veteran who claimed to have served in Vietnam when he never did so. It was a weekend of lies, this one can be resolved with a DD214.


26 posted on 01/21/2019 6:40:44 AM PST by centurion316
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TigerClaws

What kind of Indian name is Nathan Phillips?

“Ladies and gentlemen, the Stardust Lounge is proud to present for your listening pleasure the Nathan Phillips Trio with Nathan Phillips on the bongo, Lizzy Warren on the glockenspiel and Ward Churchill playing his organ!”


27 posted on 01/21/2019 6:41:46 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: All

Look at the total fraudulent interview.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2019/01/20/native-american-nathan-phillips-maga-teens-video-sot-nr-vpx.cnn


28 posted on 01/21/2019 6:41:54 AM PST by TigerClaws
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TigerClaws

He’s a protected minority, and thus is allowed to get away with anything. There was a black guy here in Minnesota who used to show up at demonstrations wearing an Army uniform decked out with medals, captain bars, and 1st Sgt stripes. He claimed to be an Iraq war vet. I don’t remember him ever being challenged by any “reporter” or anyone else. I’m sure they were either too ignorant to realize that this was a bogus uniform, or they didn’t want to be called a “racist” for challenging him.


29 posted on 01/21/2019 6:45:30 AM PST by euram
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TigerClaws
I enlisted at 17 in 1971 and am 65, I could have gone to Nam, but was stationed stateside.

I agree that nobody now 64 would have seen combat in Nam.

He "might" qualify as a "Vietnam era" vet, but his claim is still most likely a LIE!

30 posted on 01/21/2019 6:47:07 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TigerClaws

The very last marine in Vietnam was on the helicopter that lifted off the roof of the embassy in April 1973. At the time I was working the 8th AF Command Post in Guam. What a goat rope! Believe that marine died while working as a civilian in the Pentagon on 9/11. As to Phillips, I’d like to see his DD 214. If he’s 64, I doubt if he was ever in country.


31 posted on 01/21/2019 6:48:17 AM PST by CMSMC
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bort
"Anybody can request his DD-214 through a FOIA filed with the office that keeps records on military personnel."

Are you sure about this? My DD-214 in block 3 has my SSN on it. I can't imagine a document with your SSN on it can be freely obtained by anyone other than yourself. I know I can request my own. In fact I have many DD-214's (for those who don't know, you get discharged first before you re-enlist) but if I request one, they will send my my last DD-214.
32 posted on 01/21/2019 6:48:26 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Old Retired Army Guy

I understand what you are saying. You have the green and white ribbon.

But current use of the term is:

Vietnam veteran definition

A Vietnam veteran is someone who served in the armed forces of participating countries during the Vietnam War. The term has been used to describe veterans who were in the armed forces of South Vietnam, the United States armed forces, and countries allied to them, whether or not they were stationed in Vietnam during their service.

My NDSM is for service during the VN War. But I do not tell folks I am Vietnam vet, as I consider in country service to be the qualifier.


33 posted on 01/21/2019 6:50:46 AM PST by wrench
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: TigerClaws
My father is a Vietnam era vet. He's also a Woodstock era vet. He just wasn't there there.
34 posted on 01/21/2019 6:50:56 AM PST by Buttons12
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Old Teufel Hunden

See post 24.


35 posted on 01/21/2019 6:51:59 AM PST by TigerClaws
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: Raycpa

True dat - but he would have had to be headed in-country as everyone else was leaving.

Heap big smoke-screen.


36 posted on 01/21/2019 6:52:42 AM PST by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: TigerClaws

My dad is a 69-70 vet and is 68. He went over at 19.

If this guy was born in 1954, he would have been 17 in 71, when the earliest time he could have possibly entered. Which means at best he enlisted during the drawdown. It’s possible but something tells me he’s probably Vietnam era, at best. Probably signed up in 72 and did some regional deployment


37 posted on 01/21/2019 6:53:53 AM PST by Bogey78O (So far so good.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TigerClaws

Since he also claims to be a Marine, it is possible that he’s a Vietnam vet at 64. There was an embassy there until the fall of Saigon in 1975 so there were Marine Security Guards. Also the Mayaguez incident is considered the last battle of the Vietnam war. This took place in May 1975. Those Marines who were killed during that battle are listed on the Vietnam Memorial Wall.

With the above being said, the amount of Marines involved in MSG post 1972 and in the Mayguez incident are so small that yes I am very skeptical of this guy. However, unlike the press I won’t outright call him a liar until his claims are proven false. However, in the 50’s western vernacular, red man smells like heap big Stolen Valor....


38 posted on 01/21/2019 6:53:55 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TigerClaws

FYI I’m 67. Was drafted in December 1971 after 2 years of college. Missed going to Vietnam by about 2 weeks.


39 posted on 01/21/2019 6:53:55 AM PST by McGruff
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TigerClaws
Old injun saying:

The truth is more than half the fight.

40 posted on 01/21/2019 6:54:22 AM PST by Delta 21
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 121-140 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson