Yeah, the perception I got is that he came off as crazy. I remember him laughing hysterically all the time. I personally thought Ryan won, but he stayed in it well enough that (maybe via media influence) people thought he won.
Now when Pence debated Kaine, the media couldn’t sugar coat that. Even CNN thought Pence won.
Biden is a political whore without any original ideas; and he doesn’t pander any more cleverly than Hillary does:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1PVOIqQAns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-H9BOIYhgc