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1 posted on 01/05/2019 11:46:17 PM PST by caww
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Good, though I’d almost rather he start with the courts. When lifetime appointments were devised people did not live as long. I think 15 years on the district court and ten each on the court of appeal and Supreme Court. Still generous but some check on these people


2 posted on 01/05/2019 11:51:21 PM PST by j.havenfarm ( 1,500 posts as of 8/10/18. A FReeper since 2000; never shutting up!)
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Amendment suggestion:

Senators and Representatives from California who are elected by ballot harvesting shall have a term limit of 30 days.


7 posted on 01/06/2019 12:58:30 AM PST by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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Elections are term limits...


9 posted on 01/06/2019 1:39:45 AM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me htt7ps://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZGw2M)
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It’s about time.


14 posted on 01/06/2019 2:41:07 AM PST by HotKat (Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason. Mark Twain)
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Term limits are long overdue, but three terms is too short for the House. There is a very steep learning curve, especially for Members who do not come from state legislatures. Many are just hitting their stride after three or four years. And a lot of the heavy lifting in the House is done by experienced Members with five or six terms. I’d advocate a six term limit in the House, which would be equivalent to two terms in the Senate.


18 posted on 01/06/2019 3:19:15 AM PST by sphinx
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Yeah this will happen when hogs start pushing away from the slop trough. Read tag.


19 posted on 01/06/2019 3:28:18 AM PST by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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Six years for the House and twelve for the Senate? House isn’t going to like that. If this is going to have any chance of passage Cruz will have to narrow that gap.


20 posted on 01/06/2019 3:39:07 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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I wouldn’t mind a system where a congressperson can be elected a certain number of times but then has to take a term off. They can run again after that but won’t be able to get the incumbent advantage but if people liked them and they did a good job they’d have a good shot at winning.


21 posted on 01/06/2019 3:45:06 AM PST by escapefromboston (Free Assange)
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And the pigs are going to vote themselves out of office?

The only way we get term limits is at the end of a spear.


23 posted on 01/06/2019 4:46:27 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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Not t going anywhere. Congress will not limit their power.


24 posted on 01/06/2019 4:49:44 AM PST by DownInFlames (Galsd)
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Don’t really need term limits. Just end the “retirement”. Where in the Constitution can one justify paying a person who is no longer a congressperson tax dollars?


26 posted on 01/06/2019 5:14:06 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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18 is too long. Two terms for POTUS, then two terms for Congress period. No flipping over from the Senate to the House to extend their money laundering off the tax payer.


27 posted on 01/06/2019 6:58:45 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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This is exactly what is needed!


28 posted on 01/06/2019 7:19:22 AM PST by Retvet (Retvet)
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I believe 12 years total for anyone in congress, 6 in the house 6 in the senate, or 12 in one.


31 posted on 01/06/2019 8:07:12 AM PST by saturn
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I don't support term limits. I do support repealing the 17th amendment.

In a representative republic, the people should be free to vote for whomever they want to represent them, for as many terms as they want that representation. "Term limits" is like the old "stop me before I kill again" argument; keep the right to vote for someone, but only let me do it once?

That said, the solution in the Senate is not term limits, it is to eliminate the elections altogether and let the state legislatures decide whom to send to the Senate. The states should be free to choose anybody they want; the term is limited by how long the legislature feels the Senator is being effective in representing their state's interests. The people can then decide how well their state representatives are selecting their Senators.

Presidential term limits are a post-17th amendment phenomenon. I wonder why we never had a 3rd term president until Roosevelt? Was it because the Senate no longer represented the states, and the states couldn't influence the federal government like they did just 20 years earlier? Repeal the 17th amendment instead of placing term limits on Senators.

House Representatives are too numerous and their districts are too small to limit whom the locals wish to send to Congress. However, with the rise of the influence of national parties due to the need to raise campaign cash for 33 Senate elections every two years, there is a party trickle-down of money to the House by party members in the Senate. If you eliminate Senate elections, you dry up a major source of campaign funds that would naturally flow to House races, too.

In the House, I'd look at two areas: 1) reforming district reapportionment and gerrymandering, and 2) increasing the number of districts from 435 to some higher number.

For gerrymandering, I understand the need to keep natural communities together (where straight grid-mapping may not work), so perhaps a reapportionment that keeps geographic ZIP codes together might work. Try grid-mapping whole ZIP codes instead of snaking "ethnic" zones into districts.

For House size, the current limit of 435 Representatives was set by the The Permanent Apportionment Act of 1929 based on the census of 1910 when the population was 92,228,496. The result of the 2010 census was 308,745,538, a 235% increase in the last 100 years. Maybe it's time to increase the size of the House? This would rebalance the party split in Congress, as well as increase the Electoral College to influence presidential elections.

In summary, the better alternatives to "term limits" are:

1. Repeal the 17th amendment.
2. Fix the gerrymandering problem in the House.
3. Increase the size of the House to match current population.

Maybe with a larger and more fairly redistricted House, we won't see controversial splits between the Electoral College result and the so-called "popular vote" that the left uses to delegitimize results it doesn't like?

Do these things and a natural term limit will be restored across all of the federal government.

-PJ

34 posted on 01/06/2019 9:02:29 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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The civil service needs term limits more than the elected class.


35 posted on 01/06/2019 9:20:16 AM PST by thoughtomator (Nobody is coming to save the day)
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