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Democrats poised to offer two years of free community college
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | December 18, 2018 | By Melody Gutierrez

Posted on 12/18/2018 12:41:29 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

California community college students could reap the benefits of Democratic dominance in the state Legislature, with lawmakers pushing for the state to cover the cost of two years of tuition for students who commit to enrolling full time right out of high school.

During the 2018 midterms, the free-college mantra of Vermont independent Sen. Bernie Sanders became a key campaign promise for liberal candidates in congressional and state races. Gov.-elect Gavin Newsom pledged during his own campaign to make the first two years of community college free in California, as did some of his Democratic challengers.

“This is about strengthening the middle class,” said Assemblyman Miguel Santiago, D-Los Angeles, who partnered with Assemblymen David Chiu, D-San Francisco, and Kevin McCarty, D-Sacramento, to pass a bill last year making the first year of community college free for full-time freshmen.

The two-year savings for a student taking 12 units a semester would be $2,208. That could mean the difference between having to take out more loans or pick up extra hours at a job. But it also costs taxpayers millions a year.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: college; free; socialism; taxes
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

So 2 years of leftist indoctrination paid by taxpayers to undue any wrong thinking taught at home.


41 posted on 12/18/2018 2:17:18 PM PST by gibsonguy
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Age Discrimination


42 posted on 12/18/2018 2:27:32 PM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (Strangest civil war in history, only one side is shooting.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

My recollection is that when I started college in California in 1969 “city” colleges and “community” colleges were tuition-free.


43 posted on 12/18/2018 2:37:38 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: BenLurkin

Was a CA resident for 50+ years and I always thought Community Colleges were already free. If not totally free, at least they weren’t bankrupting any student or parent...
I don’t understand.


44 posted on 12/18/2018 2:39:36 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: markman46

“”Community college use to be free in calif. All you paid was books and parking””

That’s the way I always understood it..


45 posted on 12/18/2018 2:41:37 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: ought-six

“”My recollection is that when I started college in California in 1969 “city” colleges and “community” colleges were tuition-free.””

Same here as I’ve just posted. Doesn’t make sense.


46 posted on 12/18/2018 2:44:05 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So professors are volunteering their time?


47 posted on 12/18/2018 2:46:12 PM PST by GSWarrior
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To: Thank You Rush
I don’t understand.

It reduces the perceived unemployment statistic if all up to about age 20 or so can be counted as students and therefore not unemployed.

48 posted on 12/18/2018 2:49:40 PM PST by Don Corleone (Nothing makes the delusional more furious than truth.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

California needs to be invaded by Trump!


49 posted on 12/18/2018 2:53:39 PM PST by ZULU (Jeff Sessions should be tried for sedition.)
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To: RedStateRocker

Vocational Training that leads to jobs makes sense. But if it’s totally free, it will have little value.

Students following the liberal arts at a “free college” will be frustrated, not only for themselves but for the 60% who didn’t learn squat in high school and need remedial courses. Here’s a quote for which I found several sources, “The national rates of remediation are a significant problem. According to college enrollment statistics, many students are underprepared for college-level work. In the United States, research shows that anywhere from 40 percent to 60 percent of first-year college students require remediation in English, math, or both. Remedial classes increase students’ time to degree attainment and decrease their likelihood of completion. While rates vary depending on the source, on-time completion rates of students who take remedial classes are consistently less than 10 percent.”


50 posted on 12/18/2018 3:00:25 PM PST by DeFault User
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To: heartwood

Teens and young 20 something year olds with good work effort/ethics, honesty and ability to talk to adults will have some incredible job offer versus wasting 2 years in a community college.

One young female relative just flew back home from college on the east coast for her semester and Christmas/New Year Holidays break, this past Saturday. A premium store where she worked last summer sent a limo to pick her up at the airport to come to work for them on Sunday with paid lodging/meals on Saturday night.

She and her younger Brother are working basically every day but Christmas on this year end break from college and a private high school.

He thought about going to local community college after he is graduated from the private school he goes to in Late May.

His current bosses are making him job offers after his graduation, he will probably not refuse. One is a very entrepreneurial lady with a couple of businesses she owns, she is making him some incredible offers. She told him, why waste your time in any community college with high school dropouts.


51 posted on 12/18/2018 3:22:42 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Why are the libs suddenly in love with our fired AG, and want to protect him?)
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To: Grampa Dave

“She told him, why waste your time in any community college with high school dropouts.”

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Hmmmm! She sounds like a snob to me.

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52 posted on 12/18/2018 3:26:34 PM PST by Mears
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To: Mears

No, she is a very nice hard working lady, who owns two good businesses.

She dropped out from a community college her freshman year to start one of her businesses.


53 posted on 12/18/2018 3:29:21 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Why are the libs suddenly in love with our fired AG, and want to protect him?)
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To: Grampa Dave

Then she shouldn’t knock people who go to community college-——it’s a start for many people.

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54 posted on 12/18/2018 3:31:34 PM PST by Mears
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To: DeFault User

Yeah, no doubt. Agrees with my observations- things people are given they don’t appreciate. I think the optimal balance would be subsidized classes but with the student still having to have some serious skin in the game. I recall some scholarships that were free, or almost so, contingent upon one passing; probably illegal now because having to pay back money would grievously injure the self-esteem of some snowflake.


55 posted on 12/18/2018 3:46:01 PM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca. Deport all illegals. Abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF,.)
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To: Don Corleone

That doesn’t account for claiming something that has always been free is now going to be free. We have free and then we have FREE-ER?

I think what the new governor is really saying and will see that it gets enacted is “all illegals” will be welcome at the table!!!


56 posted on 12/18/2018 3:47:58 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: BenLurkin

No, you are the Democrat-dependent voter.

I remember when their regular 4-year state colleges were free (for everyone, too, after you’d been in the state for a year).


57 posted on 12/18/2018 3:51:24 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Translation: Dims poised to increase spending again to force another raise in California taxes, instead of demanding all state supported schools lower their costs or not get state subsidies.


58 posted on 12/18/2018 4:20:09 PM PST by Wuli
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“This is about strengthening the middle class,” said Assemblyman Miguel Santiago, D-Los Angeles”

“But it also costs taxpayers millions a year.”

Yep. Picking their pockets again. That’s what I call strengthening the middle class!


59 posted on 12/18/2018 5:09:04 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: BenLurkin

There should be a ‘liberal’ tax applied only to these neo-liberals and socialists to pay for it.

Just what you need, more taxpayer money spent on people who SHOULDN’T be wasting time pretending to go to ‘college’ and SHOULD instead be going into their vocation.

More bureaucrats and regulation eating a larger portion of the pie.


60 posted on 12/19/2018 1:43:12 AM PST by elbook
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