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1 posted on 12/08/2018 10:25:47 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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My focus from the article . . .

"There is, furthermore, a significant legal question about whether the hush-money payments here qualify as “in-kind” campaign contributions.

There is nothing illegal per se in making a non-disclosure agreement; they are quite common. The criminal law comes into play only if the non-disclosure payment is deemed a donation for purposes of influencing a political campaign."

Considering how common these agreements are, considering how often Mr. Pecker and the National Inquirer has engaged in these acts, the easy legal argument is these NDA's were accomplished in the course of "normal" business. Mr. Pecker did not necessarily act out "only" because of a campaign, rather, in the course of normal business for whatever tradeoff there will be, the NDA's were accomplished.

As others say . . . none of this has to do with the law, legal or not. Its ONLY about scoring political points and damaging the other side. In that measure, Mueller and Special Council has been wildly successful.

38 posted on 12/09/2018 12:22:42 AM PST by saywhatagain
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Stupid premise.

They were payments made in a private matter and paid by by a trump company and was a refularbpractice of his life and business interests...

No case


42 posted on 12/09/2018 12:29:56 AM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZGw2M)
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Because it’s what the Manhattan fags, pedophiles, thieves, crooks and bottomfeeding, Neanderthal knuckledraggers do.


46 posted on 12/09/2018 12:52:44 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (#NotARussianBot)
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https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-campaign-illegal-contribution-828044 . . . Bernie fined $14.5k for campaign finance violations - receiving foreign contributions. [Collusion?]

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/oct/25/fec-complaint-accuses-clinton-dnc-violations/ . . . Hillary violated the same laws - paying for foreign information and then hiding that payment as “legal services”. [Collusion?]

https://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/obama-2008-campaign-fined-375000-085784 . . . Obama was fined $375,000 for failing to report over 1,000 large contributions in the last 20 days before the election.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2002/09/21/fec-issues-record-fines-in-democrats-scandals/2d2ed242-98e1-40a8-8574-caef4b7570e3/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.c78a90a161f0 . . . Clinton-Gore was fined $2,000 while the DNC was fined $115,000 for contributions from fake corporations set up to funnel foreign money. [Collusion?]

There are other fines, but the point has been made. And the Deep State acts like it’s appropriate to indict President Trump over a perhaps vaguely campaign related personal payment rather than imposing a fine. What happened to “Equal Justice Under Law” as an ideal worthy of engraving on the front of the United States Supreme Court building?


47 posted on 12/09/2018 12:52:52 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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Indict the President for lying about sex. That precedent was settled when Democrats voted to acquit Clinton on a similar charge.

Yeah, that would go over well in the court of public opinion. Its the politics, stupid.


48 posted on 12/09/2018 1:29:32 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Time to burn down the SDNY and get Mueller on a collusion to Obstruct Election with the Rooskies, English and Australians.


50 posted on 12/09/2018 1:50:33 AM PST by Paladin2
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You cannot reasonably prove that he would never have paid to keep these women from talking about their stories if Mr. Trump weren’t a candidate. Therefore, reasonable doubt is implicit — no prosecutor could get a conviction since you cannot prove the money was for election campaign purposes.

McCarthy should have noted this in his article, a glaring omission. He should have also identified that the amount of money involved is peanuts to Mr. Trump. It’s the same as you or I giving a woman $20 for gas money to get her to leave.


51 posted on 12/09/2018 1:58:38 AM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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ah you cannot indict a sitting president until he is removed from office.


52 posted on 12/09/2018 1:58:40 AM PST by stockpirate (TYRANNY IS THY NAME REBELLION IS OUR ANSWER. HANG THEM ALL!)
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President Trump just needs to make sure that the next nominee for the Supreme Court is the best *man* with absolutely no consideration in favor of any aberrational social preference (that is, absolutely no consideration for the sex or race of the person chosen). The next nominee should be chosen as much as Justice Kavanaugh was for his position in favor of originalism, outstanding experience making decisions based on that, and *most of all,” no chance of changing his mind on that position favoring originalism (that is, not easily led, no hormonal imbalances, etc.).


53 posted on 12/09/2018 2:18:29 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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STOP THE SMOKE SCREENS, the real crimes by the real criminals including their protectors need to be brought to justice, end of story! If Mueller and his band of criminals can continue unabated for over 500 days with no evidence against a sitting president aside from being a hemorrhoid Trump can convene a commission headed by bulldogs that will crush them where they stand and give the American people justice


54 posted on 12/09/2018 2:36:17 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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I thought a President could NOT be indicted!


58 posted on 12/09/2018 2:48:13 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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.... when Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign was found guilty of violations involving nearly $2 million –
an amount that dwarfs the $280,000 in Cohen’s case – Obama's DOJ decided not to prosecute.......
the matter was quietly disposed of by a $375,000 FEC fine.....

Surprise............(snx)

59 posted on 12/09/2018 3:08:21 AM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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Declare martial law and stand up a national militia numbering in the millions


61 posted on 12/09/2018 3:11:51 AM PST by LeoWindhorse
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Trump did not “intend” to violate the law, so no reasonable prosecutor would bring charges......oh, that was Clinton.


67 posted on 12/09/2018 3:37:03 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is now a hate-mob)
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if instrux from Trump are on tape, maybe there is a problem. if it is just Cohen’s testimony, a known liar, probably not. i wouldn’t depend on the Edwards situation as precedent - if a certain court/judge is shopped for, who knows? i don’t think it amounts to much - but it kicks up dust. and that is what the Dems want - a duststorm every single day indicating chaos and wrongdoing, whether real or not.


68 posted on 12/09/2018 3:43:16 AM PST by avital2
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At some point soon, commonsense indicates that
it will be time to mobilize 10 to 100
million patriots to take out the corruption
that is attempting to REMOVE or HURT an ELECTED
President.


70 posted on 12/09/2018 3:57:23 AM PST by Diogenesis ( WWG1WGA)
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Does the prosecutor feel comfortable contemplating the fingers of sixty million people around his neck?


71 posted on 12/09/2018 4:03:26 AM PST by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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Lest we forget...it was Mueller who directed this trash to the infamous Southern District of New York.

Let me repeat:

It was MUELLER who directed this trash to the...almost as bad as the Ninth Circus ...INFAMOUS SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK. A district which is notorious for Left activity.
Which is ALL BAD.

When I read that Mueller did that some months ago, I knew exactly what he was doing.


74 posted on 12/09/2018 4:24:28 AM PST by Maris Crane
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...and the deep state (shadow government) soft coup of a duly elected president continues!


76 posted on 12/09/2018 4:39:04 AM PST by servantboy777
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Keep in mind that Andy Boy was is and always will be a NeverTrump scumbag - yes I called McCarthy a scumbag. This is just more suck up to his masters at Faux News.


82 posted on 12/09/2018 5:14:53 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberal is lies.)
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