Posted on 10/19/2018 8:30:42 PM PDT by cba123
ALL modern manufacturing incorporates QA at the factory. I guess if someone had absolutely no knowledge at all of production they could say otherwise.
I said: “They are shipped to San Jose, California, where they are inspected by SuperMicro.“ which you challenged out of your ignorance. I am citing what SuperMicro stated. . . That does not preclude factory QC, mrsmith, it adds a second layer of QC that SuperMicro does on their product that THEY do before shipping these special grade server motherboards. You can blither all you want, but a company that sells high-end components and assures that quality with its reputation does such things as doubly checking quality and not relying on the manufacturer’s word. Apple has its own employees doing its QC, not the assembler’s employees, just as they have their own employees monitor the assembly and working conditions at every step of the supply chain.
I am fully aware of production practices. It seems you are the ignorant one in this discussion. Your feeble attempt at an ad hominem insult fails. . . Or perhaps you are just being silly to be silly.
Spent my last few working years as a senior tech at a ‘tech’ contract mfr. Nice clean work for a change.
We had one person from the contractee for a 3 shift/360 or so person plant.
The idea that he would catch a nation-state spy operation is ludicrous.
Hey, at least you learned QC inspections happen at the factories! Maybe you can retain that knowledge. Shipping inspections happen at the addresses.
Considering the pings you got I thought you should know:
I spent my last few working years as a senior tech at a ‘tech’ contract mfr. We had one person from the contractee for a 3 shift/360 or so person plant.
The idea that he would catch a nation-state spy operation is ludicrous.
I’m just pointing out the weakness of this specific “rebuttal” from my personal knowledge.
I have no idea what occured.
Well whoop-de-do for you and him. . . But you obviously have no idea what changes would be required to be made to the surface and layers of a multilayer motherboard to add an additional IC. I’ve said it before, and the other experts said it as well, it is NOT A TRIVIAL THING TO DO, and the changes would stick out like a sore thumb, requiring a complete redesign and re-engineering of the motherboard from the ground up, likely resulting in repositioning of multiple other ICs to allow for the routing of the circuit traces the surreptitious IC. This would be noticeable to any comparison QC check of the original design layout of the Motherboard. This motherboard was designed and engineered in San Jose, California, by SuperMicero, it is proprietary; it is not some Chinese reference design motherboard where adding a extra chip would be easy.
Bloomberg claims in another article to have found a similar exploit involving SuperMicro motherboards, this time finding a processing chip surreptitiously added to the Ethernet section of the board where they claim the cover of the section had to be replaced by a larger, metal cover acting as a heatsink due to the heat output of the surreptitious processor instead of the normal cream colored plastic cover. Again, a RED FLAG modification that would stand out to any eyeball inspection, something, to use your words, it’s ludicrous to think any “nation-state spy operation” would use and expect it not to be found. The Chinese “nation-state spy operation” should just print “Chinese Nation-State Spy Co., Inc., Component” on it and be done with it,
There are much easier and much more surreptitious ways to accomplish the same thing that would not be so easy to spot. . . And we’ve found some of those far more surreptitious means the Chinese have attempted and they’ve probably succeeded with more we’ve not found. I’ve listed several methods it could be done without adding an easily spotted IC to a motherboard on other threads. I’m not going to take the time to repeat myself because of your delusional anti-Apple Blindness and your inability tp read for comprehension.
I’m doing Apple and Amazon a favor by telling you to give this one up.
It’s hilarious the lengths you go to to “win every argument! No matter what!”, how foolish it makes you look.
I don’t understand that attitude.
You’re the foolish one here, asshat, both Apple and Amazon had issued official statements saying that what Bloomberg claimed they found on the SuperMicro motherboards never happened. It’s you with egg yolk all over your face.
I trust NOTHING a homosexual tells me. Nothing. Heck, they lie to themselves.
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