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In Khashoggi Disappearance, Turkey’s Slow Drip of Leaks Puts Pressure on Saudis
MSN News ^ | 10/19/2018 | CARLOTTA GALL

Posted on 10/19/2018 2:28:02 PM PDT by detective

Since the Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi disappeared over two weeks ago, details from the police investigation, including gory descriptions of audio recordings that reveal he was killed in Tarantino-like fashion, have been leaked, drip by drip, to keep the world suspended as the mystery unfolds.

The calculated media strategy has proved remarkably effective for the government of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, ensuring that the case remains front-page news around the world.

But it has also served a deeper agenda — to push the United States to pressure Saudi Arabia — while shielding the government behind the news media to avoid an open and potentially damaging diplomatic rupture with the Saudis.

Sign Up For the Morning Briefing Newsletter From the start, reports of the existence of the audio recordings were brandished almost as a threat by Turkish officials and pro-government news outlets, evidently to maintain pressure on Saudi Arabia, but also on the Trump administration, to resolve the issue to Turkey’s taste.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: kashoggi; saudis; turkey
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To: detective

So we are to sacrifice our economy and Mideast alliances over the death (no matter how gruesome) of a Muslim Brotherhood radical.


21 posted on 10/19/2018 2:56:59 PM PDT by 2nd Amendment
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To: detective

It’s crystal clear to me that Turkey is behind this entire incident. They’re trying to drive a wedge between allies by committing murder it was highly planned through some of their double agents inside the Saudi government structure. It’s the Turks. I knew it from the instant it was reported. Will see how well they covered their tracks
It’s time for erdogan’s head to be set on a pike somewhere.


22 posted on 10/19/2018 2:58:49 PM PDT by MIA_eccl1212 (Imho)
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To: grania
Re: “NOTHING excuses the atrocity in the embassy.”

Who is trying to excuse anything?

Almost every Comment I have read on this issue says the same thing....

Nobody ever heard of this guy. And, nobody cares.

Unless, of course, you are pro-Iran, pro-Hamas, anti-Trump, or anti-Israel.

23 posted on 10/19/2018 3:00:43 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: numberonepal

Sorry, but I don’t give a hussein about this Khashoggi guy.


24 posted on 10/19/2018 3:04:19 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: detective

Twit


25 posted on 10/19/2018 3:04:39 PM PDT by numberonepal (WWG1WGA)
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To: grania

No person, no problem?


26 posted on 10/19/2018 3:05:15 PM PDT by numberonepal (WWG1WGA)
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To: detective




27 posted on 10/19/2018 3:05:37 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: the_Watchman

There is no problem with Saudi Arabia killing this guy in their own embassy.
Does anybody here actually believe the CIA doesn’t whack people all over the planet at will?
Really?
If saudis whacked him to begin with(no body no crime) they did it on their own soil (otherwise known as their embassy its sovereign territory) and they can whack anybody they want to there. Turkey has no jurisdiction regarding what happens inside another nation’s Embassy. All turkey can actually do is close the embassy and Deport the staff. With friends like turkey I think I’d rather not have an embassy there to begin with. We sure as hell shouldn’t have one there.


28 posted on 10/19/2018 3:07:34 PM PDT by MIA_eccl1212 (Imho)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Sorry, but I don’t give a hussein about this Khashoggi guy.

Me either, he was a bad hombre.

29 posted on 10/19/2018 3:08:07 PM PDT by numberonepal (WWG1WGA)
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To: greeneyes

“Day 15.1 Brennan’s CIA Cabal Mad About Khashoggi Jihad Land Grab Machine Broken
Additional info regarding Khashoggi links to John Brennan/rotten CIA crony friends etc.”

Great video.


30 posted on 10/19/2018 3:10:53 PM PDT by detective
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To: detective

My values do not accept the hypocrisy of arming and funding terrorists in Syria with obviously bogus accusations involving chemical attacks yet doubting that something very bad happened in that embassy. And stop it with parading anyone as the “bad guys” in that quagmire. The bad guys are whoever the powerbrokers want to topple and whose countries they want to destabilize to gain control of their resources.


31 posted on 10/19/2018 3:14:58 PM PDT by grania ("You don't give power to an angry left wing mob")
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To: detective

In case it’s not already on the thread.

Jailed and wanted Journalists in Turkey- Updated List
https://stockholmcf.org/updated-list/

Any “journalist” walking around in Turkey is not a journalist.


32 posted on 10/19/2018 3:15:44 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: detective
Tinker, Tailor, Journalist, Spy: Jamal Khashoggi And The Story Not Being Told
Posted on | 10 comments

Via NC Scout at American Partisan.

The Middle East is a cesspit.

And very few Westerners understand it, or the reasons for its seemingly irrational importance in world affairs.


33 posted on 10/19/2018 3:16:09 PM PDT by Chode ( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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To: ColdOne

Erdogan has since 2011 sought to take control of the International Muslim Brotherhood (Ikhwan al-Muslimun). Kashoggi has been a Muslim Brother since his youth. Two things to consider: Saudi Arabia, Egypt, the UAE have all outlawed the Muslim Brotherhood; second, the USA doesn’t know shitfromshinola about the modern day Ikhwan and its presence in Turkey, Germany, Spain, the UK and the USA.


34 posted on 10/19/2018 3:23:30 PM PDT by Bookshelf
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To: grania; detective
You do not represent me or my values.

To grania: Whoa! That’s quite a response to someone trying to give you another perspective on this whole thing.

Remember, there is NO EVIDENCE so far as to what happened here.

Khashoggi was recorded going into the Saudi consulate, but not coming out, right?

Whose video recordings were these? Turkey’s. Could they have edited any of these recordings?

Reread detective’s points. Could there be motivation for Turkey to do so?

Detective gave me food for thought (thank you, detective), but for you detective’s points are an assault on your beliefs? You need to pry open your closed mind!

Personally, I would not be at all surprised if it came out that Erdogan orchestrated this entire incident.

35 posted on 10/19/2018 3:23:48 PM PDT by EarlyBird (There's a whole lot of winning going on around here!)
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To: All

Can’t find a link for this yet but:

BREAKING: Saudi Arabia confirms Khashoggi killed in Istanbul consulate; top Saudi intelligence official fired - AFP


36 posted on 10/19/2018 3:25:49 PM PDT by McGruff
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To: grania

“My values do not accept the hypocrisy of arming and funding terrorists in Syria with obviously bogus accusations involving chemical attacks yet doubting that something very bad happened in that embassy.”

I have posted many times about the false accusations in Syria. I think we probably agree on that.

I do not know what happened in the embassy. The media tells us that supposedly there is a tape of torture and murder. But no one has seen or heard it. Their only source is the dishonest Turkish media controlled by Erdogan and even they say they have not seen or heard any tape.

Do you have any evidence of what actually happened? Or are you only repeating reports from the Turkish government, obediently repeated by the Turkish media and then rerepeated by the Washington Post and the MSM.


37 posted on 10/19/2018 3:28:07 PM PDT by detective
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To: detective

This should be between Turkey and Saudi Arabia. We have no skin in this game and we should keep it that way.


38 posted on 10/19/2018 3:30:08 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: detective

I have no trouble with there being a lack of evidence and not jumping to conclusions. I do object to the attempts to frame the guy as a terrorist who deserved to die while the issue is unsettled. It makes our side seem evil and callous. FWIW, I don’t care who gets the blame, as long as for a change we get it right, instead of buying into the Globalist Agenda.


39 posted on 10/19/2018 3:31:05 PM PDT by grania ("You don't give power to an angry left wing mob")
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To: numberonepal; detective

A few very important facts about Kashoggi:

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I stole that.

************

As did I.


40 posted on 10/19/2018 3:32:32 PM PDT by lyby ("Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe." ~ Galileo Galilei)
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