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Pro-lifers should be very, very concerned about Susan Collins’ Kavanaugh speech
Life Site News ^ | 10/09/2018 | Calvin Freiburger

Posted on 10/09/2018 6:46:58 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

WASHINGTON, D.C., October 9, 2018 (LifeSiteNews) – Pro-lifers are right to celebrate the failure of the smear campaign against Brett Kavanaugh. We wouldn’t have gotten a better nominee if President Trump had withdrawn him, and surrender would have not only demoralized the conservative base but taught leftists they can get away with anything.

That being said, we can’t let our euphoria blind us to the fact that we don’t really know if our newest Supreme Court justice is the automatic anti-Roe vote the president promised us, and Susan Collins’ make-or-break speech Friday was actually a damning indictment of how little vetting we did before appointing him to lifetime power.

Yes, she defied the mob. Yes, she did a fair job of detailing the accusers’ credibility problems. But are we really going to downplay or ignore her ringing endorsements of Roe and Obergefell – or worse, her confidence that Kavanaugh agrees?

Judge Kavanaugh described the Obergefell decision, which legalized same-gender marriages, as an important landmark precedent. He also cited Justice Kennedy’s recent Masterpiece Cakeshop opinion for the court’s majority stating that “the days of treating gay and lesbian Americans, or gay and lesbian couples as second-class citizens who are inferior in dignity and worth are over in the Supreme Court.”

Here Collins is simply quoting Kavanaugh’s confirmation hearing testimony. True, he refused to call Obergefell rightly decided, and may have just been trying to get Kamala Harris off his back. But shouldn’t any degree of praise for an emotion-driven, precedent-upending legal farce (particularly coming from a professed fan of precedent) warrant further questioning?

As Robert A. J. Gagnon said Saturday, the “best that we can hope for is that Kavanaugh was intentionally misleading Democratic Senators; but then the degree of dissembling wouldn't speak well of him.”

To my knowledge, Judge Kavanaugh is the first Supreme Court nominee to express the view that precedent is not merely a practice and tradition, but rooted in Article 3 of our Constitution itself. He believes that precedent is not just a judicial policy, it is constitutionally dictated to pay attention and pay heed to rules of precedent. In other words, precedent isn’t a goal or an aspiration. It is a constitutional tenet that has to be followed except in the most extraordinary circumstances.

Collins is accurately summarizing Kavanaugh’s testimony last month. There’s some truth to this – Alexander Hamilton saw precedent as keeping judges from exercising “arbitrary discretion” and helping “define and point out their duty” – but it’s not at all obvious that precedent “comes right from” Article III’s text. More importantly, these effects are only valuable to the extent they’re upholding the Constitution rather than subverting it. And how “extraordinary” do circumstances have to be to trump precedent?

He said decisions become part of our legal framework with the passage of time and that honoring precedent is essential to maintaining public confidence [...] in his testimony, he noted repeatedly that Roe had been upheld by Planned Parenthood vs. Casey, describing it as a precedent. When I asked him would it be sufficient to overturn a long-established precedent if five current justices believed that it was wrongly decided, he emphatically said “no.”

If Kavanaugh really said that (a big if, granted), he should have been canned on the spot. Precedent can potentially trump the Constitution itself? In a job all about upholding the Constitution? As Justice Thomas was paraphrased in a 2007 interview, “If the Court has deviated from the text of the Constitution, subsequent cases adhering to the precedent only magnify the error.”

This is also why the strongest piece of pro-Kavanaugh evidence, his 2017 speech discussing Chief Justice Rehnquist’s critique of Roe, doesn’t necessarily settle things. If Collins is right, Kavanaugh might believe Roe was wrongly decided but deserves to stand anyway due to other considerations. He might overturn it if he thinks Roe is “grievously wrong” like Plessy v. Ferguson or Dred Scott v. Sanford, but “might” is the point: we don’t know, and now it’s too late.

Opponents frequently cite then-candidate Donald Trump’s campaign pledge to nominate only judges who would overturn Roe. The Republican platform for all presidential campaigns has included this pledge since at least 1980. During this time Republican presidents have appointed Justices O’Connor, Souter and Kennedy to the Supreme Court. These are the very three Republican president appointed justices who authored the Casey decision which reaffirmed Roe.

It is astonishing just how little attention this passage has gotten. Collins is essentially saying, “don’t worry about it, my party has been lying to those pro-life rubes for decades.” It’s not entirely true, of course; Republicans also gave us Rehnquist, Scalia, Thomas, and Alito. But one would assume somebody in the GOP would have a problem with one of their own bragging about the gulf between her party’s words and deeds.

Settling for stealth nominees would be one thing if we were simultaneously working on reducing the judiciary’s power or alternative ways to tear down Roe. But for years, our leaders have put all their eggs in the Supreme Court’s basket. How can the same people who demanded we take this path settle for anything less than absolute certainty we’re going the right way?

As undeserved as so much of the fawning praise for Collins is, we have to give her credit for one thing: she seems to have put more effort into investigating Kavanaugh’s views than Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, or Ben Sasse did. Now, all we can do is pray our new Supreme Court justice is who so many pro-lifers think he is – and that we don’t have to learn the hard way to take the next vacancy more seriously.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; kavanaugh; prolife; scotus; susancollins
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1 posted on 10/09/2018 6:46:58 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I found the Collins speech to be odd too. It was a speech that suggest that Roe was in no danger. I didn’t like that.


2 posted on 10/09/2018 6:50:53 PM PDT by poinq
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To: poinq

It was a speech that suggest that Roe was in no

Is she going to be passing judgement on cases before SCOTUS?

Sounds like you think she will be.

THAT worries me much more.

3 posted on 10/09/2018 6:55:35 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: poinq

She had to say that. But it’s not in danger until a new case can set precedence.


4 posted on 10/09/2018 7:04:21 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (This article needs a fact checked)
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To: SeekAndFind

This speculation is way premature.


5 posted on 10/09/2018 7:05:14 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: SeekAndFind

Kavenaugh has elected to turn over several judicial determinations. He is not above it, because he believes the Constitution speaks for itself, where.it.speaks.at.all.

Roe was determined on privacy rights and the rights of the mother, but, not the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It was wrongly decided, taken from the States, taken from Congress, taken from established precedent of being against the law. Roe was lawless.

Kav is a practicing Catholic. What kind of Catholic, we will see.


6 posted on 10/09/2018 7:06:20 PM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Ed & Academia are the FARM TEAM for more Marxists coming, infinitum.)
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To: poinq

I’m telling everyone! I M O, Kavanaugh is a Bush style “compassionate conservative “ - Roe v Wade is in absolutely no danger because he is on the court. I’m not an expert on the career of Kav but his words and then Collins’ speech reaffirmed my opinion


7 posted on 10/09/2018 7:07:26 PM PDT by atc23 (M*NKEY - there, I said it!)
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To: poinq

Roe is in no danger.
Unless we get more SC picks and they are so inclined, Kavanaugh is not.


8 posted on 10/09/2018 7:10:11 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: atc23

imho, the left went nuts over him because he’s strongly supportive of the 2nd Amendment.


9 posted on 10/09/2018 7:12:05 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: atc23

No conservative jurist accepts Roe as being based on the Constitution. Not one.


10 posted on 10/09/2018 7:13:08 PM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: SeekAndFind

In other words, precedent isn’t a goal or an aspiration. It is a constitutional tenet that has to be followed except in the most extraordinary circumstances.
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This kind of thinking can be dangerous when the precedent is wrong.


11 posted on 10/09/2018 7:17:02 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: SeekAndFind

Chuck Grassley said today if a SCOTUS seat opens up in 2020, he will not do anything if Trump nominates another justice.

UNBELEIVABLE AND UNACCEPTABLE!!!! Grassley, if you refuse to do your job as judiciary chairman, you need to be FIRED from your chairmanship!

Cocaine Mitch needs to have a Come to Jesus Meeting with Grassley. Don’t let us down, Mitch!!!!


12 posted on 10/09/2018 7:19:17 PM PDT by RooRoobird20 ("Democrats haven't been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Roe is “settled law” just like Plessy v. Ferguson and the Dred Scott decision were settled law. They were overturned and the wrongly decided Roe v. Wade case will be overturned in time.

The Truth will out!


13 posted on 10/09/2018 7:20:50 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (FMF Corpsman - Lima 3/5 RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: SeekAndFind

No they should not. What the alternative?

This is why Conservative Inc is the most pathetically intent political moment in history. Instead of celebratinf the 1st down they sit in the stands mindlessly bitching the team doesn’t score a touchdown on every play.


14 posted on 10/09/2018 7:21:54 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have to abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Dred Scott established a “precedent” and we see how that worked out.


15 posted on 10/09/2018 7:24:37 PM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

If anyone expects Roe vs. Wade will be suddenly overturned on a 5-4 vote, they are going to be disappointed.

That is not how it is going to happen. Conservatives are not going to ignore precedent.

It is very possible that the freedom of states to regulate abortion can be gradually restored. Eventually, better science can replace Blackmun’s junk science of trimesters. Maybe states will be able to prohibit abortion after the point where the fetus is viable, or the point where it can be demonstrated that the fetus can feel pain,both of which are moving closer and closer to the moment of conception.

We did not become a people that it kills its unborn in a s single moment, and we will not expiate this practice in a single moment. It is a long struggle and the tide is only slowly beginning to turn.


16 posted on 10/09/2018 7:24:51 PM PDT by CaptainMorgantown
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To: SeekAndFind

No judge who is openly, or even plausibly, anti-abortion will be confirmed by this or any other Senate.


17 posted on 10/09/2018 7:28:02 PM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: ConorMacNessa

Plessy v. Ferguson has never been overturned, although finding the Civil Rights Act of 1964 constitutional had the effect of making Plessy moot.

The Brown v. Board decision was not based on overturning Plessy, and there were not five votes to do so. It was based on “new findings in psychological research”.


18 posted on 10/09/2018 7:30:32 PM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: arrogantsob

Dred Scott was never overturned, it was corrected (if you want to call it that) by three constitutional amendments.


19 posted on 10/09/2018 7:31:37 PM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: CaptainMorgantown
We did not become a people that it kills its unborn in a single moment

Yes, we did.
20 posted on 10/09/2018 7:35:29 PM PDT by HalfIrish
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