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In other words, the answer to the mystery of the worldwide deaths of honeybees may be related to what we know as Roundup (Monsanto)
1 posted on 09/25/2018 7:42:00 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

DUH. And what do you think it does to our equally necessary microbiota???


2 posted on 09/25/2018 7:42:55 AM PDT by Yaelle
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Funny how the title claims that Roundup is the cause, but then says it may be afterwards.
3 posted on 09/25/2018 7:43:37 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Reminds me I gotta do my fall spraying. As for the bees---🐝--- I still got a ton of them working our Russian Heather. Lavender is all done for the year. You can hear them from about 10 feet away. Now, if I could just find their nests......
4 posted on 09/25/2018 7:45:40 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Honeybees are an invasive species. The enviros ought to be search for effective pesticides that will kill the European honeybees while leaving native pollinators alone.


6 posted on 09/25/2018 7:48:17 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
So the honeybees (with their quite short lifespans) and their colonies have been fine up til the last couple of years or so,
yet it's glyphosate's fault even tho it's been in use for decades ?

color me unconvinced.

7 posted on 09/25/2018 7:50:33 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Bee shortage is a lie.


8 posted on 09/25/2018 7:59:03 AM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

https://www.acsh.org/news/2018/04/17/bee-apocalypse-was-never-real-heres-why-12851


9 posted on 09/25/2018 8:00:33 AM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Could they please make a version of Roundup that is toxic to mosquitos?


12 posted on 09/25/2018 8:09:15 AM PDT by bigbob (Trust Sessions. Trust the Plan.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
If I understand Roundup I don't think it is the cause. Roundup is used as a herbicide. In orchards and vineyards it is used to burn down the weed that grow around the trees and vines.

Those weedy plants aren't generally the plants with flowers that bees feed upon.

So, I wonder, if Roundup is the culprit, how it is being used and on what plants it is used for the burn down.

14 posted on 09/25/2018 8:11:15 AM PDT by Parmy
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Monsanto is now owned by Bayer.

Bayer is facing massive lawsuits on 3 fronts....ill effects of contrast dye from medical imaging, essure birth control, and now Roundup.

It’s cha-ching time for the lawyers.


15 posted on 09/25/2018 8:13:01 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Glyphosate increases the strength of butterfly wings such that a butterfly in the Congo causes increased eddy currents that travel to Africa and create tropical disturbances of the coast of Sierra Leone.

Cat 5 hurricanes! We all gonna die!

Before the government can properly utilize our earning potential....


16 posted on 09/25/2018 8:13:32 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic, Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
In other words, the answer to the mystery of the worldwide deaths of honeybees may be related to what we know as Roundup (Monsanto)

The "mystery of the worldwide deaths of honeybees" is looking more and more like it's as real as "global warming".

If it was actually a problem, honey production in the US would collapse at some point. Instead, it looks like it fluctuates a bit year-to-year, but is staying relatively consistent: https://www.beeculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/1blue2.png

Further, if glyphosate was in any way affecting bee populations, it would be most evident in states which use a lot of glyphosate and have high honey production: North and South Dakota and Minnesota.

US use of glyphosate is six times as much as it was twenty years ago. Where is the evidence that it is affecting bee populations?

23 posted on 09/25/2018 8:29:06 AM PDT by Wissa ("Accidents don't happen to people who take accidents as a personal insult." - Michael Corleone)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

This hypothesis needs to be confirmed ASAP.

The stakes are huge either way.

But if it wills off honey bees, it’s the most dangerous substance in all of agriculture, and one of the most dangerous in the world.


26 posted on 09/25/2018 8:44:35 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

“Understanding how glyphosate impacts bee gut symbionts and bee health will help elucidate a possible role of this chemical in colony decline.”

So they admit they don’t know whether it impacts the bees at all, that it’s all speculation and maybe a possibility.


29 posted on 09/25/2018 8:52:11 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

https://www.livescience.com/61086-biggest-myth-about-bee-apocalypse.html


32 posted on 09/25/2018 9:01:15 AM PDT by Paradox (Don't call them mainstream, there is nothing mainstream about the MSM.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

This is all BS. There is so much crap out there passing for science. If this causes cancer, why aren’t all the landscape workers dying of cancer?


34 posted on 09/25/2018 9:04:27 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX (..Do not be frightened, and do not be dismayed, for the Lord your God is with you.. Joshua 1:9)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

OOooooooo! MonSAAANNNTTOooo!

BOOGA-BOOGA-BOOGA!

I’ve just met ONE TOO MANY individuals who — when you say “Monsanto” — totally wig out and their head twists around like Linda Blair in “The Exorcist.”

Glyphosate is a glycine mimic that absorbs through plant leaves and stems and binds to the active site of the critical enzyme EPSP synthase inhibitng its function in the production of other amino acids that plants and bacteria require to survive. Rendered unable to produce these vital amino acids, the plant cannot sustain the cellular mechanisms that transport nutrients and water to the stem and leaves, so the plant wilts, dehydrates, and dies. Because EPSP synthase is present in highest concentration in the growth areas of plants, glyphosate accumulates in these aeras, and does not break down until the plant has died and begins to decay.

Once in the soil, glyphosate adsorbs onto the soil particles, and remains immobile unless the soil itself is transported by some means, which would include surface erosion by wind or water. Glphosate is broken down by microbes in the soil into inert organic compaunds: nitrogen, and carbon dioxide. How long that takes depends on the soil and the amound of glyphosate, but the half-life of glyphosate in soil has been observed to be anywhere from 1 to 174 days. Glyphosate in soil is not absorbed by other plants, which is why you can plant a treated area mere days after treating the weeds in that same area. Because of this, glyphosate in the soil is bound TO the soil, it is unavailable for uptake into plants subsequently grown on treated land, and is thus not present to be ingested by consumers of those plants.

More detail here:
http://pmep.cce.cornell.edu/profiles/extoxnet/dienochlor-glyphosate/glyphosate-ext.html


39 posted on 09/25/2018 9:35:08 AM PDT by HKMk23 (You ask how to fight an idea? Well, I'll tell you how: with another idea!)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Oh bullshiite. Monsanto has awful business practices, but trashing roundup based on bad science is marxist territory. They almost ruined them with bad science regarding roundup and cancer. It was complete BS suitable for contrail, antivax kookville crowds. In other words, Useful Idiots.


40 posted on 09/25/2018 9:40:05 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Q: Believing Is Seeing!)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Am I the only one who dislikes the use of the term "gut" in place of actual medical terms, or even traditional terms?

That and "core"... SMH

49 posted on 09/25/2018 1:24:11 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Here come the Freepers who defend poisoning the environment. They are, I expect, at least strongly overlapping with Freepers who love to defend pit bulls and those who advocate the intentional killing of neighbors’ cats.


52 posted on 09/25/2018 1:57:31 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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