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The Fragile Role Of Memory In The Allegations Against Judge Kavanaugh
Townhall.com ^ | September 24, 2024 | Scott Moorefield

Posted on 09/24/2018 8:13:52 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 09/24/2018 8:13:53 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Every liberal is a lying, violent totalitarian thug.


2 posted on 09/24/2018 8:15:49 AM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: Kaslin
all the evidence we have, or don’t have

As far as I can see Ford is all in the "don't have" category, while Kavanaugh has a lot of exculpatory evidence.

This is basically a weak "he said, she said" case from over 30 years ago. It's a joke. I don't care about sophisticated theories about Memory. This is crude Stalinist politics. Nothing more.

3 posted on 09/24/2018 8:17:46 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The MSM is in the business of creating a fake version of reality for political reasons.)
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To: Kaslin
We met at nine, we met at eight, I was on time, no, you were late
Ah, yes, I remember it well
We dined with friends, we dined alone, a tenor sang, a baritone
Ah, yes, I remember it well

4 posted on 09/24/2018 8:18:26 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Democrats: The perfect party for the helpless and stupid, and those who would rule over them.)
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To: Kaslin

Much of what passes as modern psychology science is pure unproven conjecture and nonsense.


5 posted on 09/24/2018 8:19:54 AM PDT by allendale (.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

But was she 8 before she was 7?


6 posted on 09/24/2018 8:21:19 AM PDT by bankwalker (Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.)
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To: Kaslin

“carefully assessing her memories” = waiting for soros’ check to clear


7 posted on 09/24/2018 8:22:27 AM PDT by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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Using the words of the latest accuser:

“After six days of carefully assessing my memories and consulting with my attorney, I feel confident enough of my recollections to say that I remember Nancy Pelosi at a drunken dormitory party, thrust her vagina in my face, and caused me to touch it without my consent as I pushed her away.”

You think it would take 6 days to recall that horror?


8 posted on 09/24/2018 8:22:47 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Vox populi, vox dei)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

This is part of the left’s attempts to portray every white, conservative male as a closet sexual predator, with a sordid history of sexual abuse just waiting for some “victim” to recall the “events”. In one year we’ve had a very similar pattern of allegations against two judges, both based on decades old recollections of women who were allied with the Democrat attack machine. Roy Moore was a doddering old man and seemingly incapable of understanding the magnitude of the forces aligned against him. Let’s hope that Kavanaugh is much more mentally agile and prepared to eviscerate his accusers. He doesn’t just need to deny the accusations, he needs to spell it out for what it is - an 11th hour hit orchestrated by the collusion of Democrats, media, and two liberal activists. Take a lesson from Clarence Thomas and go on the attack.


9 posted on 09/24/2018 8:26:35 AM PDT by littleharbour ("You take on the intel community they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you" C. Schumer)
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To: Kaslin
Before the supposed age of Hillary and her "irredeemable deplorables," the influence of Christianity held strong in much of the American mind. The teachings of the Author of that faith held that all are redeemable in the eyes of their Creator and that, in the eyes of what America's Declaration of Independence called "the Supreme Judge of the world," all are accountable to that Being.

Such belief in that accountability underlies the Constitution's requirement of the "Oath" of office--an accountability which Geo. Washington mentioned in his Farewell Address.

The Liberal/Progressive ideology is sad in that it provides no such idea of redemption--provided only that one human being's belief system disagrees with the Progressive view, leaving a hopeless and helpless, empty and hateful ideology controlling the minds and actions of a populace who seem to have lost their way.

10 posted on 09/24/2018 8:38:50 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: stinkerpot65
Every liberal is a lying, violent totalitarian thug.

I'm sure there are some nice ones... but I get your drift...

11 posted on 09/24/2018 8:59:00 AM PDT by GOPJ (Kavanaugh gave me a wedgie in the fourth grade ... michealpramirez)
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fingers crossed...

Christine the Balsey Fraud
...he touched me, he touched me, and I'll never beeee the saaaaame...

fingers uncrossed...

12 posted on 09/24/2018 9:06:51 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 $215.71 from 50% increase in 1.2183 yrs)
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To: Kaslin

Democrats seem to have just enough of the Mnemonic Acuity it takes to remember to lie, and often.


13 posted on 09/24/2018 9:07:29 AM PDT by Richard Axtell (So, this is the Third World! What happened to the first two?)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
You think it would take 6 days to recall that horror?

It would take 1,000 years to forget it.

14 posted on 09/24/2018 9:38:55 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Kill-googl,TWITR,FACBK,NYT,WaPo,Hlywd,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antifa,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA)
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To: Kaslin

This assumes the leftist hags are not straight lying, which is my belief.


15 posted on 09/24/2018 9:59:10 AM PDT by jospehm20
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that some, or maybe no night in 1982
16 posted on 09/24/2018 10:10:43 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Journalism promotes itself - and promotes big government - by speaking ill of society.)
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This assumes allows for the possibility that the leftist hags are not straight lying, which is my belief probable but not ENTIRELY certain .
17 posted on 09/24/2018 10:26:39 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Journalism promotes itself - and promotes big government - by speaking ill of society.)
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fair translation.


18 posted on 09/24/2018 11:28:54 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: GOPJ

The people who would lie about Kavanaugh or force Marine LePen into a mental institution are evil people bent on our destruction.

They are not crazy or sincerely mistaken, any more than Nazis were crazy or sincerely mistaken.

Democrats will do the same to us that the Nazis did to the Jews- at the moment they have enough power.

Republicans need to face up to reality.


19 posted on 09/24/2018 12:06:30 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
This is basically a weak "he said, she said" case from over 30 years ago. It's a joke . . . Presumptively This is crude Stalinist politics. Nothing more.
I don't care about sophisticated theories about Memory.
. . . whereas I am alarmed at naive theories of memory which allow the cynical to practice on the credulity of the gullible.

After my mother died 5 years after an Alzheimer’s Disease diagnosis, I remarked to a medical professional that I thought I had learned a good bit about memory. He replied that I probably had an Associate Degree’s worth of understanding of the subject from my experience.

I observed in Mother’s behavior and understanding the fact that we all remember only part of our experience, and when we try to remember something we often call to mind facts related to the question at hand, and conclude the answer by interpolation from those facts that we do remember. It tends to work, a lot of the time, getting the information we want/need from our brains. But it is a thought process - it isn’t a simple table look-up.

The key point is that, having “refreshed” your memory with the fact that things happened in a certain sequence and you can pin things down by going by what you remember, you also tend to remember your conclusion which you inferred from what you did remember. Now your memory of a long-ago event is colored by a conclusion you have drawn recently. By this mechanism you actually alter a memory in the process of accessing it.

(In the case of Mother’s Alzheimer’s Disease, what happened was that her (accurate) memories became sparser as time went on but she continued to rely on interpolating between the memories that she did retain. And that meant that her “memory” - actually conclusions from her memory - became wildly inaccurate. Not just “I don’t know” but “remembered” - wildly inaccurately).
The conclusion is that the possibility of generating of “very definite memories” inheres in a process such as psychotherapy. Note well - generating not actually recovering but generating - “very definite memories” which might bear no relation to reality at all.

As you say, litigating a 35 year ago memory is a joke. But litigating a “recovered” “memory” is a travesty.


20 posted on 09/24/2018 1:48:42 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Journalism promotes itself - and promotes big government - by speaking ill of society.)
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