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To: DoughtyOne; Impy; LS; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy

I’ll tell you one death that bothered me related to Bush... Lee Atwater. Atwater was one of the last unapologetic balls-to-the-walls party strategists. His masterminding of 1988 was such that we’ve yet to match it again (in 1988, all 50 states except DC were in play for the GOP for the Presidency - and that was the last time). If Atwater had not been dead by 1992, an untimely death to say the least, how would he have handled the Clintons ? Of course, it seems counterintuitive that Papa Bush would want his brilliant strategist dead, but might it have been a threat to him personally if Atwater had gone nuclear on the Clintons and they retaliated in kind with “alleged” collusion (and with that, might’ve placed the nutter Perot in the Presidency instead) ?

As I’ve speculated, I think virtually everyone in DC has dirty on everybody else, blackmail for keeping things status quo and benefitting those in the Deep State. This isn’t new, of course, it’s been going on for decades and decades.

Things were likely quite bad under President Reagan, and sadly as much we respect him, he wasn’t able to really clean up the profound mess and take a sledgehammer to the corruption. We’ve already seen the visceral reaction from both parties in collusion to Trump’s ascension and his public attempts to tackle this epic corruption both have proliferated.

I think if we got the unvarnished truth as to the who, what and whys of the collusion going back for the past century to the present, it would freak the public far worse than a revelation of being contacted by space aliens. In a lot of ways, we need to stop looking at things through the prism of party politics (Dem vs GOP) and through the lens of insider vs. outsider. It’s paramount that we effectively purge the insider ring.

I’ve seen some folks claiming that JFK was taking on the “Deep State” (or Ike’s “Military-Industrial Complex”), but I don’t ascribe noble motives to a guy who stole a Presidential election through massive voter fraud. In his case, I think he was merely trying to supplant the Deep State “bosses” of that era with his own people, so he could become the “new” big boss. The leftist media of the era was happy to give him that assist. Whether Oswald masterminded the assassination or it was a conspiracy by those in power to stop JFK’s hijacking of “the outfit” for himself, I tend to point to that period where this nation has rapidly unraveled socially, culturally, politically, morally, et al.

Anyway, excuse my stream-of-consciousness musings here. I doubt we’ll ever get the truth in our lifetime. I think a lot of this runs deeper to Satan himself, those who will sell their souls for power, money, influence, fame, et al, and those are the people in charge and threatening those of us who are diametrically opposed to evil and serve God.


107 posted on 09/21/2018 12:10:31 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: fieldmarshaldj; DoughtyOne; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican

Atwater had a brain tumor (that clearly impacted his sanity and led him to apologize to Dukakis for kicking his ass), I don’t see how Bush could have given him a brain tumor.

Your theory doesn’t hold water anyway, if Bush was afraid Atwater would be too effective against Bill Clinton leading Clinton to retaliate with some kind of blackmail dirt on Bush (collusion? what?) he could have simply ordered him to stand down rather than murder him.

As you know I don’t put much stock in grand blackmail conspiracies.

I don’t see Perot possibly winning 270 electoral votes under any circumstance. If it went to the House they would have elected Clinton.


108 posted on 09/21/2018 7:55:50 PM PDT by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; DoughtyOne; Impy; LS; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy

RE Algore

Anybody else sick of these psychopath liberals threatening OUR President yet?


122 posted on 09/22/2018 11:47:06 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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